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#1733765
Hi all

I have a hereditary hearing loss from birth which is corrected by small (fully in ear) Widex hearing aids. My loss is below the minimum thresholds for a class 1 medical, and I visited the CAA for an initial medical but was declined on the basis of my audiogram. However they did issue me with a class 2 medical.

Fast forward to now and I have now completed my PPL. My class 2 expires in October and I'm looking at making another attempt at getting a class 1 before then.

I have been reading about Functional Hearing assessments for pilots with a PPL (links below), and it seems this is a potential avenue for me to upgrade my class 2 to a class 1 medical?

Questions I have are whether anyone has any experience of undertaking a functional hearing test, and what the process is of getting the CAA to accept this for class 1 medical standards? Does it have to be done by an AME in an aeroplane or just a CAA examiner?

Any help is appreciated!

https://www.caa.co.uk/WorkArea/Download ... 4294973817

https://www.caa.co.uk/Aeromedical-Exami ... lots-(EASA)/Conditions/Otorhinolaryngology/Otorhinolaryngology-guidance-material-GM/
#1733775
clarkeysntfc wrote:https://www.caa.co.uk/WorkArea/Download ... 4294973817

https://www.caa.co.uk/Aeromedical-Exami ... lots-(EASA)/Conditions/Otorhinolaryngology/Otorhinolaryngology-guidance-material-GM/


The links above didn't work (the system doesn't like brackets and question marks), so try these:
https://www.caa.co.uk/Aeromedical-Examiners/Medical-standards/Pilots-(EASA)/Conditions/Otorhinolaryngology/Otorhinolaryngology-guidance-material-GM/

https://www.caa.co.uk/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=4294973817
#1733806
clarkeysntfc wrote:Hi all

I have a hereditary hearing loss from birth which is corrected by small (fully in ear) Widex hearing aids. My loss is below the minimum thresholds for a class 1 medical, and I visited the CAA for an initial medical but was declined on the basis of my audiogram. However they did issue me with a class 2 medical.

Fast forward to now and I have now completed my PPL. My class 2 expires in October and I'm looking at making another attempt at getting a class 1 before then.


When did you have the first Class 1 assessment?

What was done at the time?
#1733850
Flyin'Dutch' wrote:
clarkeysntfc wrote:Hi all

I have a hereditary hearing loss from birth which is corrected by small (fully in ear) Widex hearing aids. My loss is below the minimum thresholds for a class 1 medical, and I visited the CAA for an initial medical but was declined on the basis of my audiogram. However they did issue me with a class 2 medical.

Fast forward to now and I have now completed my PPL. My class 2 expires in October and I'm looking at making another attempt at getting a class 1 before then.


When did you have the first Class 1 assessment?

What was done at the time?


This would have been autumn 2016. They did an audiogram without my hearing aids.
#1733854
What confused me about a functional hearing test (which I thought was in the air with a Flight Examiner) is what happens at renewal?

Also would this get you the class 1 medical that you need?
#1733891
@clarkeysntfc

From the CAA website:

Class 1 applicants, with hearing aids that are well tolerated and suitable for aviation purposes and which enable them to meet the audiogram requirements, should follow the guidance below.

Initial Class 1 applicants with hearing outside the standards set out in MED.B.080 (a)(1)(ii), who can demonstrate stability and no significant underlying pathology, may be considered for Class 2 certification initially with a satisfactory report from a functional hearing test (see Profound Hearing Loss below). Following the issue of a Class 2 medical certificate, the successful completion of PPL training will be considered to demonstrate that hypoacusis does not interfere with the safe exercise of the privileges and Class 1 certification will be considered with SSL (Special Restriction as Specified) limitation “Functional Hearing Assessment Required within 3 months of renewal/revalidation medical”.


Can now not remember if there has been a change in regulations since 2016 but that seems to be the route.
#1733902
Flyin'Dutch' wrote:@clarkeysntfc

From the CAA website:

Class 1 applicants, with hearing aids that are well tolerated and suitable for aviation purposes and which enable them to meet the audiogram requirements, should follow the guidance below.

Initial Class 1 applicants with hearing outside the standards set out in MED.B.080 (a)(1)(ii), who can demonstrate stability and no significant underlying pathology, may be considered for Class 2 certification initially with a satisfactory report from a functional hearing test (see Profound Hearing Loss below). Following the issue of a Class 2 medical certificate, the successful completion of PPL training will be considered to demonstrate that hypoacusis does not interfere with the safe exercise of the privileges and Class 1 certification will be considered with SSL (Special Restriction as Specified) limitation “Functional Hearing Assessment Required within 3 months of renewal/revalidation medical”.


Can now not remember if there has been a change in regulations since 2016 but that seems to be the route.


Thanks - do you know who does the functional hearing assessment?