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By iaindings
#1614137
So I find myself with 20 dual hours and 10 solo hours (lapl minimums met). For the lapl I just need to do a dual land away xc then do the same one solo for my qxc, followed by a few hours practice.

I’ve decided to go the LAPL route for a few reasons

1 I can get it done before the bad weather sets in and comfortably within financial limits
2 while its not much more expensive to have the instructor, having the LAPL does mean I can buy an hours building package and make solo quite a bit cheaper
3 the skills test is still hours flown so isn’t wasted, I’ll upgrade it to the PPL next year and onto other things in due course
4 I won’t need to exercise any of the PPL benefits until I’ve got quite a lot more hours anyway
By Bathman
#1614144
Unfortunately the CAA do not see it that way

The PPL is a 45 hour course and the LAPL a 30 hour course and you can't chop and change.

So if you have done say 44 hours towards a PPL and then decide you want a LAPL then you have to start again and do the full 30 hour LAPL ourse.

I should add I don't make the rulesand would of course love to be proved wrong.
By iaindings
#1614145
I’m going along with what my school told me, we haven’t even spoken about what track I’m taking until now (as it’s identical to this point)

The requirements on the CAA website make no mention of any limitations along those lines that I can find either
By NDB_hold
#1615250
Bathman wrote:Unfortunately the CAA do not see it that way

The PPL is a 45 hour course and the LAPL a 30 hour course and you can't chop and change.

So if you have done say 44 hours towards a PPL and then decide you want a LAPL then you have to start again and do the full 30 hour LAPL ourse.

I should add I don't make the rulesand would of course love to be proved wrong.


That seems unduly restrictive where the exercises overlap. Of course, if your instructor is LAPL only (no CPL exams passed) then you couldn’t change your mind mid course and 'upgrade'. (That’s probably why some are saying LAPL instructors charge less, too.)
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By Irv Lee
#1615257
I have heard of one or two schools are telling students that they can get a nppl ssea now and convert it as before to a lapl as "everything" has been delayed til April next year now. Unfortunately that bit hasn't.
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By Flyin'Dutch'
#1619966
Paul_Sengupta wrote:You can't fly outside Europe on an LAPL, so flying holidays in the US are out.


:?:

Although you may not be able to get a 'based on licence' there is of course nothing stopping one from getting a freestanding FAA license [sic]

And guess what......the flight training and experience will count for the largest part for getting that FAA ticket too.
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By Paul_Sengupta
#1619972
But that probably involves more hoops than getting the full PPL in the first place....TSA clearance, ground exam (combination of all subjects, US-centric) to do again, flight test...
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By Flyin'Dutch'
#1619973
Paul,

Whilst that is no doubt true, as someone wrote:

Bathman wrote:The PPL is a 45 hour course and the LAPL a 30 hour course


In addition to the savings in time/money there are also the reduction in medical requirements/costs to consider as well as the fact that the LAPL and flying in Europe will cover, at a guess, >>95% of UK pilots' needs.
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By cotterpot
#1619990
Yes that's why I asked Delta Echo why she/he thought the PPL was better.

He/she claims 40+ hours so should have a good idea.

Also noted joined today and posted on 7 or 8 topics in studes forum
By iaindings
#1620266
I think a lot of people have missed the point a bit here - of course the PPL offers a bit more freedom and is "better" in that way, gaining a LAPL now does not prevent me from upgrading later - it would just be another skills test.

But for now, LAPL means a shorter skills test and smaller QXC, making it quicker and cheaper to get. As it is, I did the QXC on Friday and LAPL skills test booked for Sunday :)
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