Tue May 12, 2009 2:44 pm
#744792
Yeah, fair points and my own IMC-R usage was like that too, but we will have to see....
However -
that isn't the way it would work, IMHO.
The PA28 driver with a Navcomm, ADF and DME cannot do a great deal right now, because (taking the description literally) he cannot fly an ILS, and being able to navigate enroute using VORs only his work is going to be well cut out. He really needs a panel mounted GPS and the vast majority of those are IFR units. Also the GPS does not talk to the Mode S transponder which is a standalone item and is mandatory for practically all IFR around Europe. A BRNAV approved GPS installation is required at/above FL095.
I think the vast majority of UK pilots who fly IFR, legally or not, are using a GPS and it is probably a pretty good one.
The other thing is that cutting across a bit of a TMA is not going to work either because the minimum crossings are above FL090. This rating would involve filing a Eurocontrol IFR flight plan, which is VFR to IFR and then back to VFR and which specifies the waypoints at which you expect to change over. Getting an ad hoc clearance into UK Class A is not going to work in the same way and for the same reasons (COMPUTER SAYS NO) that it does not work today.
If the rating included an SRA then everything would change as to the utility in UK airspace.
But yes there is a lot of detail to be worked out if this goes ahead. One is getting the acceptance of European ATC to pilots why will be filing IFR enroute-only; this won't affect the enroute sector controllers who are already working low and slow FL100-FL200 traffic flying in that great big airspace void, but the approach controllers will have to work differently. Another is the lack of BRNAV approvals in the bulk of the GA (but otherwise IFR capable) fleet. The Mode S battle is lost anyway; you have to have it for IFR.
Finally I think UK non-IR instrument pilots will carry on doing what they do at present, anyway, enroute where it is unenforceable. That utility is not going to go away, in practice.
However -
what use are class A privileges to a PA28 driver with a Navcomm, ADF and DME if he isn't prepared to lash out another £8k plus on BRNAV kit which talks to his Mode S, when all he wan't to do is cut across a low bit of airway or TMA.
that isn't the way it would work, IMHO.
The PA28 driver with a Navcomm, ADF and DME cannot do a great deal right now, because (taking the description literally) he cannot fly an ILS, and being able to navigate enroute using VORs only his work is going to be well cut out. He really needs a panel mounted GPS and the vast majority of those are IFR units. Also the GPS does not talk to the Mode S transponder which is a standalone item and is mandatory for practically all IFR around Europe. A BRNAV approved GPS installation is required at/above FL095.
I think the vast majority of UK pilots who fly IFR, legally or not, are using a GPS and it is probably a pretty good one.
The other thing is that cutting across a bit of a TMA is not going to work either because the minimum crossings are above FL090. This rating would involve filing a Eurocontrol IFR flight plan, which is VFR to IFR and then back to VFR and which specifies the waypoints at which you expect to change over. Getting an ad hoc clearance into UK Class A is not going to work in the same way and for the same reasons (COMPUTER SAYS NO) that it does not work today.
If the rating included an SRA then everything would change as to the utility in UK airspace.
But yes there is a lot of detail to be worked out if this goes ahead. One is getting the acceptance of European ATC to pilots why will be filing IFR enroute-only; this won't affect the enroute sector controllers who are already working low and slow FL100-FL200 traffic flying in that great big airspace void, but the approach controllers will have to work differently. Another is the lack of BRNAV approvals in the bulk of the GA (but otherwise IFR capable) fleet. The Mode S battle is lost anyway; you have to have it for IFR.
Finally I think UK non-IR instrument pilots will carry on doing what they do at present, anyway, enroute where it is unenforceable. That utility is not going to go away, in practice.