Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:25 pm
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Bill McCarthy wrote:...anyway it’ll all come out in the wash.
Misc.
Bill McCarthy wrote:...anyway it’ll all come out in the wash.
Sooty25 wrote:So, what we can see in the video.
Engine is running but decidely sick which I assume is why he's ditching.
He's inside the line of swimmers.
He's got it pretty much on the edge of stalling at touch down.
So, what if that sick engine had done something unexpected in the last few seconds.
What if it had seized solid, the increased drag would have dropped him short, or worse, caused a wing to drop one way or the other.
What if it had given a random short increase in rpm and extended his approach, who was further down the beach? Had he looked that far?
What if all the swimmers further offshore had panicked and headed for the beach?
IMO, the primary responsibilty of a pilot is the safety of everyone else around him, and in this case that means being a couple of hundred feet further offshore. If it means sacrificing your headset and a longer swim so be it. If it puts the pilot at a greater risk, rather than risk to the swimmers, so be it.
The difference between killing a third party and not, is often very fine. Think of the Lisbon beach landing in 2017.
As for the recovery, they've probably done far more harm to the airframe dragging it up the beach by its tail, than they would have, doing a straight lift onto a barge from deeper water.
Mike Tango wrote:Maybe in due course there’ll be a learning talk available, like the excellent one online from the pilot who had to force land the Mustang at Duxford a few years ago. That would be a good outcome.
Ben K wrote:Sooty25 wrote:So, what we can see in the video.
Engine is running but decidely sick which I assume is why he's ditching.
He's inside the line of swimmers.
He's got it pretty much on the edge of stalling at touch down.
So, what if that sick engine had done something unexpected in the last few seconds.
What if it had seized solid, the increased drag would have dropped him short, or worse, caused a wing to drop one way or the other.
What if it had given a random short increase in rpm and extended his approach, who was further down the beach? Had he looked that far?
What if all the swimmers further offshore had panicked and headed for the beach?
IMO, the primary responsibilty of a pilot is the safety of everyone else around him, and in this case that means being a couple of hundred feet further offshore. If it means sacrificing your headset and a longer swim so be it. If it puts the pilot at a greater risk, rather than risk to the swimmers, so be it.
The difference between killing a third party and not, is often very fine. Think of the Lisbon beach landing in 2017.
As for the recovery, they've probably done far more harm to the airframe dragging it up the beach by its tail, than they would have, doing a straight lift onto a barge from deeper water.
Is your armchair comfy...?
Sooty25 wrote:Ben K wrote:Sooty25 wrote:So, what we can see in the video.
Engine is running but decidely sick which I assume is why he's ditching.
He's inside the line of swimmers.
He's got it pretty much on the edge of stalling at touch down.
So, what if that sick engine had done something unexpected in the last few seconds.
What if it had seized solid, the increased drag would have dropped him short, or worse, caused a wing to drop one way or the other.
What if it had given a random short increase in rpm and extended his approach, who was further down the beach? Had he looked that far?
What if all the swimmers further offshore had panicked and headed for the beach?
IMO, the primary responsibilty of a pilot is the safety of everyone else around him, and in this case that means being a couple of hundred feet further offshore. If it means sacrificing your headset and a longer swim so be it. If it puts the pilot at a greater risk, rather than risk to the swimmers, so be it.
The difference between killing a third party and not, is often very fine. Think of the Lisbon beach landing in 2017.
As for the recovery, they've probably done far more harm to the airframe dragging it up the beach by its tail, than they would have, doing a straight lift onto a barge from deeper water.
Is your armchair comfy...?
did it take you as long to type your comment as it did mine?