Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:13 pm
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Forewarned is forearmed, so in the hope this might be of help to others here is a brief description of my experience of getting N-S and S-N through the newish F'boro class D.
Based on a private strip near Lewes I wanted to fly to Sywell and back, could go east or west around Gatwick and Heathrow, but on this occasion I chose to go west.
The problem is to get through the gap between F'boro ATZ and Heathrow airspace, with D132 and D133 to contend with, and avoiding the Blackbushe ATZ. On this last point Blackbushe is at 325' so you may be able to squeeze over the top at 2,325' below the LTMA at 2,500' [Edit - LTMA base is actually 3,500' but if heading north you will be straight back down to the 2,500' limit. If you route over Reading you can stay up to 3,500'] but whether you would get a clearance..............
With regard to the Danger Areas D132 has a broken boundary line so will be given a NOTAM if active, up to 2,500', whereas D133 is at 1200' occasionally 2,400'.
Northbound, after departure I listened in on Gatwick 126.825 with a listening squawk of 7012, but neither spoke nor was spoken to.
Rather than go below the 1500' stub I held 2,000' as I cleared the corner at Billingshurst - thankfully whoever had the same idea coming the other way was 50' higher.
Changed frequency to F'boro West 125.250 and squawked 7,000 and asked for a basic service and zone transit East of their ATZ. (They asked if I was squawking 7012 and I said no, having been advised that that is a listening squawk only and to use 7000 if going on to request a service. Maybe it was the guy going the other way on 7012). I was assigned a squawk and given a basic service.
Getting closer to the zone boundary I was then given 'Contact F'boro on 133.440 (the new VFR frequency) with squawk'.
Having done this I was given the clearance, keep to the east of F'boro ATZ, not above 2,000', keep clear of B'bushe ATZ. I think I was given a traffic service at this stage, and then actually crossing the zone boundary 'Radar Control' Which just requires the two words read back plus abbreviated call sign.
Clearing the Class D to the north it was back to traffic or basic service, keep clear of W Waltham and then change frequency en-route.
Coming back was essentially the same procedure. Make contact with F'boro West once clear of Booker, transferred to 133.440, and this time asked to route M3 J4 VRP and then carry on southward, then back to F'boro west and carry on homeward.
[I don't know if it is possible to go straight to the 133.440 frequency, can anyone else advise?]
Based on a private strip near Lewes I wanted to fly to Sywell and back, could go east or west around Gatwick and Heathrow, but on this occasion I chose to go west.
The problem is to get through the gap between F'boro ATZ and Heathrow airspace, with D132 and D133 to contend with, and avoiding the Blackbushe ATZ. On this last point Blackbushe is at 325' so you may be able to squeeze over the top at 2,325' below the LTMA at 2,500' [Edit - LTMA base is actually 3,500' but if heading north you will be straight back down to the 2,500' limit. If you route over Reading you can stay up to 3,500'] but whether you would get a clearance..............
With regard to the Danger Areas D132 has a broken boundary line so will be given a NOTAM if active, up to 2,500', whereas D133 is at 1200' occasionally 2,400'.
Northbound, after departure I listened in on Gatwick 126.825 with a listening squawk of 7012, but neither spoke nor was spoken to.
Rather than go below the 1500' stub I held 2,000' as I cleared the corner at Billingshurst - thankfully whoever had the same idea coming the other way was 50' higher.
Changed frequency to F'boro West 125.250 and squawked 7,000 and asked for a basic service and zone transit East of their ATZ. (They asked if I was squawking 7012 and I said no, having been advised that that is a listening squawk only and to use 7000 if going on to request a service. Maybe it was the guy going the other way on 7012). I was assigned a squawk and given a basic service.
Getting closer to the zone boundary I was then given 'Contact F'boro on 133.440 (the new VFR frequency) with squawk'.
Having done this I was given the clearance, keep to the east of F'boro ATZ, not above 2,000', keep clear of B'bushe ATZ. I think I was given a traffic service at this stage, and then actually crossing the zone boundary 'Radar Control' Which just requires the two words read back plus abbreviated call sign.
Clearing the Class D to the north it was back to traffic or basic service, keep clear of W Waltham and then change frequency en-route.
Coming back was essentially the same procedure. Make contact with F'boro West once clear of Booker, transferred to 133.440, and this time asked to route M3 J4 VRP and then carry on southward, then back to F'boro west and carry on homeward.
[I don't know if it is possible to go straight to the 133.440 frequency, can anyone else advise?]
Last edited by Charles Hunt on Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:30 am, edited 1 time in total.
Suiting the action to the words