[Lockhaven]

I think not being on the centreline is touch of an understatement.

[Ragwing]

Anybody know what method of extraction was used.

[Dave W]

Digital?

[Mike Charlie]

Bring the local car wash to to site, nothing a jet wash (boom boom) shouldn't cure...!

[mmcp42]

looks like a very aggressive hand-brake turn!

[FlightDek]

Looks like the right main gear and nose gear were on the grass while the left main gear was still on the taxiway.

Maybe that caused the turn to the right?

[riverrock]

Is there edge lighting there? Perhaps taxiing down the wrong line, then as soon as one wheel touches the grass the resistance pulls the rest in?
Fun to speculate.

[cockney steve]

Few lengths of 11" x 4" timber from the local Wickes, sledgehammer first 2 in under the bogies....couple of strops right low on the legs and bob's your dad's bro. How much might that have saved?

[kanga]

Aaib reckons inadvertent touch of brake pedal while operating rudder at high speed, not specifically trained against

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... e-55005334

[TopCat]

Aaib reckons inadvertent touch of brake pedal while operating rudder at high speed, not specifically trained against

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... e-55005334

Oops.

I've been experimenting recently with my short field landing technique, and I've been practising braking after touchdown while the nose wheel is still off the ground, the objective being to keep it off even during the braking phase. Obviously, I do not let the nose wheel bang down even under braking.

It needs a fairly deft touch - I'd never try it in an aircraft I didn't know very well, and I can imagine it has the potential to go a bit pete tong.

Not sure I'd try it while holding straight with a bootful of rudder in a strong crosswind as well....

Although.... I do like a challenge

[rdfb]

I would summarise this as:

1. The normal nosewheel steering mechanism failed shortly after touchdown, switching the nosewheel to free castoring rather than being actively steered by the rudder control as normal. This was the root cause of the runway excursion, not pilot error.
2. While differential braking would have worked and this detail was buried in the POH, it wasn't mentioned in the QRH, wasn't done at high speeds in training and so it didn't occur to the pilot to use it in the four seconds he had to react. They're fixing that.

As to why the nosewheel steering mechanism failed, it looks to me that this was investigated in some detail but seems inconclusive.

[PeteSpencer]

The strength of a/c landing gear always amazes me :think all the crosswind landing vids on YouTube.

Even dragging our one tonne Arrow across soft grass via the noseleg /wheel axle towing point seems impossibly risky

[G-BLEW]

Oops.

I've been experimenting recently with my short field landing technique, and I've been practising braking after touchdown while the nose wheel is still off the ground, the objective being to keep it off even during the braking phase. Obviously, I do not let the nose wheel bang down even under braking.

What's the type, and does that result in a shorter landing than heavier braking with more weight on wheels?

Ian

[Boxkite]

I've been experimenting recently with my short field landing technique, and I've been practising braking after touchdown while the nose wheel is still off the ground, the objective being to keep it off even during the braking phase. Obviously, I do not let the nose wheel bang down even under braking.

I can't see how that works at all.
During normal braking the only thing that stops the aircraft rotating about the centres of the main wheels is the nose-wheel being in contact with the ground. Any friction connection between the rolling wheels and the landing gear will cause the nose-wheel to drop, assisted by the CofG. I would imagine any aerodynamic load on the elevators by pulling the stick back would have minimal effect on counteracting the CofG and downward rotation caused by the slightest amount of braking.

[Maxthelion]

If that had happened on Flintsone's grass he'd be out for blood.