Primarily for general aviation discussion, but other aviation topics are also welcome.
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By Lefty
#1692124
Safest option is stay put. But if freezing levels are low over the land, but you have VMC, you could, (if you wish) stay low level and follow lake Melville and the Hamilton Inlet all the way from Goose Bay to the Atlantic coast. You even have a diversion airfield at Rigolet. (Used to do that run on a regular basis when I was flying from Goose Bay - long before GPS and moving maps)

Take care !
#1692162
Iceman wrote:The leg Goose Bay to Narsarsuaq requires HF.

Iceman 8)


“Sorry Sir, didn’t you hear my transmission on HF, must be a problem with my kit. I’ll continue using VHF - and relays if necessary”. I had HF on two crossings - but never worked so continued on VHF. We never lost VHF with Iceland radio. Only time we lost it was 150nm south of Goose enroute to Montreal. Had about 3 hours of relaying via airliners.

Nuuk is also a much better stopover than Narsarsuaq.

Coming Eastbound, you loose about 2 hours of local time on each leg, and it can sometimes be difficult to get to Narsarsuaq before their closing time. AFAIR, Nuuk is open about two hours longer than Narsarsuaq. Also more, and much better hotels and restaurants.
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#1692186
Not looking too clever right now...

SPECI CYYR 080924Z 06009KT 3/4SM BR VV003 M00/M01 A3001 RMK FG8 SLP165=

AF AMD CYYR 080627Z 0806/0906 06008KT 1/4SM FG VV001 TEMPO 0806/0812
1SM -DZ BR OVC003 PROB30 0807/0812 2SM -FZDZ BR
FM081200 04008KT 2SM BR OVC006 TEMPO 0812/0814 6SM BR SCT006
OVC010
FM081400 05010KT P6SM SCT008 OVC015
FM082000 05012KT 2SM -RA BR SCT003 OVC006
FM090200 01010KT 2SM -RASN OVC003
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Katamarino wrote:Not looking too clever right now...

SPECI CYYR 080924Z 06009KT 3/4SM BR VV003 M00/M01 A3001 RMK FG8 SLP165=

AF AMD CYYR 080627Z 0806/0906 06008KT 1/4SM FG VV001 TEMPO 0806/0812
1SM -DZ BR OVC003 PROB30 0807/0812 2SM -FZDZ BR
FM081200 04008KT 2SM BR OVC006 TEMPO 0812/0814 6SM BR SCT006
OVC010
FM081400 05010KT P6SM SCT008 OVC015
FM082000 05012KT 2SM -RA BR SCT003 OVC006
FM090200 01010KT 2SM -RASN OVC003


Rent a car and explore Happy Valley and Northwest River. On the way to NW River you find Otter Creek, the seaplane base. Usually 6-10 DH3 Otters / DH6 twin otters and an occasional Beaver (DH2).
There is a very interesting Air Forces Museum on the airport. It used t be inside the USAF area, but they were talking about moving it into a public accessible area - ask Woodward’s.
NB If you get in there, you might find a photo of yours truly on display. (B/W photo showing 2 young guys carving a life size ice sculpture of a Sperm whale).
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#1692193
Josh wrote:Enjoy the sights over Greenland. The place is just stunning on a clear day. This was a bit further north of your route just west of Kangerlussuaq (Søndre Strømfjord) on Thursday. You won’t be bored in the clear!


Reminds me of flying to San Francisco on a 747 at 30000+ somewhere mid-Atlantic, I was admiring the cloudscape out of the window and wondering what the grey bits were - oh! cumulus granitus sticking out of ice, we're actually over Greenland...

Have a really great trip Katamarino, look forward to the updates.
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#1692198
With the freezing level above 2,500ft along the route, and improving towards Greenland, it's tempting to head out; but the options for return are limited with the way the TAF looks. What say the Atlantic crossing gurus? I'm leaning towards no, being a newbie. My route in red...

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#1692210
I'm a wimp, and not a guru. I'd stay put! One of the great pleasures of my Atlantic crossing was flying over the Canadian arctic scenery. If you can wait a bit and do it with good visibility, it will be more fun than slogging through cloud, hoping that the freezing level stays high enough - particularly as there is high terrain. It's perhaps dull and boring for veterans of multiple crossings, but it's different and fascinating the first time.

On my trip the weather forecasts weren't as reliable as they are in more inhabited regions. Freezing levels weren't an issue in August, but forecast cloud base was often quite wrong, and the winds between Canada and Greenland were much stronger than I expected - which caused me to arrive 7 minutes after closing time. That was a €1000 mistake!

Enjoy the trip whenever you do it!
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Sod it - stay on the ground. Being optimistic and hoping for better weather is not a good trait when flying an SEP across the Atlantic.

Go look at the museum and the Vulcan bomber. The museum is now in the public accessible area.

I am pm’ing you the number of my ex RAF friend who may be able to meet up with you.
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