Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:28 pm
#1672474
From today's Private Eye:
We all live under the same sky, but we don't all have the same horizon.
Morten wrote:From today's Private Eye:
Lockhaven wrote:The whole world of dodgy aircraft charters using aircraft with suspect airworthiness, flags of convenience, pilots without the required licences experience or qualifications needs bringing to an end, and its about time the UK CAA realised this, got of their comfy chairs in the Belgrano and started doing some work to stop it.
The 'Wingly' website would be my first port of call, I would start trying to book a few flights to see what comes up and then paying a few of those individuals a visit.
G-BLEW wrote:As an example, Wingly only allows equal cost sharing, where the law allows much much more.
G-BLEW wrote:Lockhaven wrote:The whole world of dodgy aircraft charters using aircraft with suspect airworthiness, flags of convenience, pilots without the required licences experience or qualifications needs bringing to an end, and its about time the UK CAA realised this, got of their comfy chairs in the Belgrano and started doing some work to stop it.
The 'Wingly' website would be my first port of call, I would start trying to book a few flights to see what comes up and then paying a few of those individuals a visit.
Completely agree that the world of grey charters should be carefully looked at, but…
It needs looking at in its entirety. I don't believe the 'flags of convenience' thing (can and does happen with G reg and other EASA reg aircraft), I don't buy the Wingly thing, this flight was not a Wingly flight, and Wingly do more to check and educate under the current cost sharing regs than, I suspect, most individuals. As an example, Wingly only allows equal cost sharing, where the law allows much much more.
I'm not saying that N reg aircraft aren't also involved, and I'm not saying that everyone on Wingly is perfect, but to focus on those areas would not solve the bigger issue (which has been going on with all sorts of registrations and long before Wingly came on the scene).
Ian
Sorry Ian I disagree.
It would be naive to think that there are not plenty of individuals operating under the 'Wingly' banner that are using every possible opportunity to flout the rules regarding cost sharing of aircraft, they were handed the cost sharing option on a plate by the CAA/EASA and left to their own devices using self regulation.
G-BLEW wrote:The Wingly model (other platforms are available) is an equal share of the cost, so you'd have to grossly overestimate the costs to make anything out of this.
Lockhaven wrote:
Hopefully there are few individuals having a few sleepless nights at the moment waiting for a phone call or door bell to ring, because one thing is for sure this **** storm is going to create waves and I really hope those responsible for flights such as these end up doing some jail time.
The whole world of dodgy aircraft charters using aircraft with suspect airworthiness, flags of convenience, pilots without the required licences experience or qualifications needs bringing to an end, and its about time the UK CAA realised this, got of their comfy chairs in the Belgrano and started doing some work to stop it.
The 'Wingly' website would be my first port of call, I would start trying to book a few flights to see what comes up and then paying a few of those individuals a visit.
Miscellaneous wrote:G-BLEW wrote:The Wingly model (other platforms are available) is an equal share of the cost, so you'd have to grossly overestimate the costs to make anything out of this.
Have you looked at some the the advertised prices against the cost of what's offered?
There was a thread a while back that threw up some interesting offers.