[Sooty25]

AINAL

Hope you had plenty of lube...

No idea, so cautiously googled it and it came back with "Someone who love big things and chubby people in a sexual way." Talk about drift!

Anyway, maybe the reason she didn't admit it if the first place and is now appealing is she wasn't driving.

Being found guilty doesn't always mean you did it, that is why we have an appeals process.

Probably is guilty though.

I have this theory that in 95% of Court cases one party knows they are wrong, which to me means a significant chunk of solicitors are defending people they know are guilty. To me, that makes anyone being a litigation solicitor, inherently crooked.

[nallen]

I have this theory that in 95% of Court cases one party knows they are wrong, which to me means a significant chunk of solicitors are defending people they know are guilty. To me, that makes anyone being a litigation solicitor, inherently crooked.

In English courts, the lawyers are there to argue the toss about who has the best case (aka adversarial system), rather than the truth per se -- in other words, their opinion of their client's guilt is not relevant, ergo they are not "inherently crooked". If you want a system that at least attempts to get at all the facts, then you need to hop over the Channel where the French have just such an approach (aka inquisitorial system).

[OCB]

Ummm..,how about Scots Law?
No need to pay Eurostar, and we’ve had an uneven number on a jury for centuries to avoid the idiot trap of “evens”...

Comparing legal systems without knowing how they work in reality is a subject I leave to my friends who make a living out of it and who thrive on the philosophical and intellectual intricacies of that subject

That said, my wife watches enough French legal thrillers and I have enough Belgian cop friends to say: don’t fall into the “grass is greener” conundrum.

CSI point in case. Dinner party conversation just over a year ago got onto the idea of a perfect murder here in Belgium (legal differences with France aren’t huge).

Participants were:
2 senior cops
Croque-morts (under taker)
Lawyer
Generaliste (family doc)
Tax Inspector
+the rest of us

Basically. in France or Belgium- if you had the help of just one cop/undertaker/MD of even lawyer, there would be almost no possibility you’d get caught.

Given the recent demise of the MIL, and the quite blatant acts of thievery by some “professionals” - which are then covered up by their colleague professionals - don’t wish for something you think is more than you have, but is in reality much much less.

[Genghis the Engineer]

There's really no point in correcting that acronym now is there.

And I'm Not A Lawyer, or something.

G

(Yeah, I know, not convincing anybody)

[cockney steve]

^^^^^^^^^^ Meaningless denial without a photo of the trouble and strife
I thought the acronym was, correctly....IANAL (I am not a lawyer)

[cotterpot]

Fiona Onasanya: Peterborough MP's jail term to be reviewed

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-c ... e-47071120

Someone complained.

[PeteSpencer]

I wouldn't want a lying lawyer representing me either in court or as an MP.

She's still pulling down her salary for representing and advising constituents while in pokey.

Perhaps they'll shove it up to 12 months and trigger automatic expulsion as an MP.

Peter

OK, I appreciate there is a body of opinion that says most lawyers are lying bar-stewards

[VRB_20kt]

Released this morning

[tomtytom]

I have to hold a valid DBS to run a scout group, granted some criminal history wouldn't prevent me from doing that it would be on a case by case basis (i'm always disappointed when my DBS comes back clear and i think what a boring life we have).

I guess people with criminal records and intents need fair representation in Parliament as well.

[Sooty25]

Released this morning

4 weeks then? Hmmmm, clearly needed her back for a vote then.

[romille]

How on earth can a 3 months sentence on 29 January 2019 lead to release on 26 February 2019, it's a flipping joke!

[PaulB]

I've no idea, but had she been held in custody pre-trial and that time counts?

[flybymike]

Doesn’t everyone get 50% remission for good behaviour?
That would knock it down to six weeks for starters.

[PaulB]

She was released under the early release scheme, and will be required to wear an electronic tag. To be fair, I'm guessing that she will have found that being in gaol is not very pleasant so it may well have had a deterrent effect.

[Sooty25]

She was released under the early release scheme, and will be required to wear an electronic tag. To be fair, I'm guessing that she will have found that being in gaol is not very pleasant so it may well have had a deterrent effect.

Being an unemployed, former MP would have also had that effect! Well, I guess we know for certain at least one of our representatives is a lying criminal, just a few more to prove!