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Hi All,

After a protracted absence due to lack of enthusiasm, I may become an 'aviator' once more !

Can someone provide a precis of the current situation (and long term outlook) for owning and operating an 'N reg' aircraft in the UK and flying it occasionally into the EU? This would be done solely with the use of a stand-alone FAA licence.

When I sold the Bonanza back in 2007 it was all 'doom and gloom' for N reg operators, but it never really happened. I have not been in touch with these matters recently, so would welcome any comments.

Cheers

GG-33

There is no issue whatsoever.

You can fly as much as you like as long as your insurance is valid

If aircraft based in uk, it would be "an easa aircraft", so isn't at least a licence check (form srg 2142) if not an easa validation too? (Question, not statement, as I don't follow faa too closely)

I did some research on a related subject a while ago. Not exactly the same, but I think some of it comes from the same laws.

What I have written down is that Regulation (EU) 2018/1139 Article 2(1)(b)(ii) and Article 21(1) of the same regulation suggests to me that pilots flying foreign registered aircraft operated by EU-based operators must hold a license acceptable to the EU regulations.

Edit: to be clear, the above paragraph does sound a little contrary to ICAO treaties, but note that it doesn't prevent truly foreign N-reg aircraft from entering the EU since they wouldn't have EU-based operators.

Looking again now, it looks like Annex III of Regulation (EU) 1178/2011 allows the UK to issue such recognition, and to get that you have to use SRG2140 ("Declaration for Pilots holding an ICAO Compliant Flight Crew Licence Issued by the FAA for use in UK Airspace"). I'm not sure how that differs from SRG2142 ("Application for the Verification of Third Country ICAO Licences") but hopefully with those pointers you'll be able to figure the rest out.

Yes srg2140 is what I called the validation on my first post (the process can be gleaned from the form itself) and a 2142 is what must be processed to check the faa certificate has not been suspended at home (and can take weeks) before flying an easa aircraft on the faa ticket... and such an N reg based in the EU is an easa aircraft.
When all this came in suddenly (April 8th 2017) and surprised people, there were UK N reg aircraft at Friedrichshafen for a week so there was some sort of exemption for a few days to get them home. Wonder what % of UK N reg FAA pilots abide by it?
I think the 2140 is only valid a year, purpose to let pilot get an easa l8cence in that time. Can only be extended to complete the conversion course.