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By clarkeysntfc
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Hi all

I have a hereditary hearing loss from birth which is corrected by small (fully in ear) Widex hearing aids. My loss is below the minimum thresholds for a class 1 medical, and I visited the CAA for an initial medical but was declined on the basis of my audiogram. However they did issue me with a class 2 medical.

Fast forward to now and I have now completed my PPL. My class 2 expires in October and I'm looking at making another attempt at getting a class 1 before then.

I have been reading about Functional Hearing assessments for pilots with a PPL (links below), and it seems this is a potential avenue for me to upgrade my class 2 to a class 1 medical?

Questions I have are whether anyone has any experience of undertaking a functional hearing test, and what the process is of getting the CAA to accept this for class 1 medical standards? Does it have to be done by an AME in an aeroplane or just a CAA examiner?

Any help is appreciated!

https://www.caa.co.uk/WorkArea/Download ... 4294973817

https://www.caa.co.uk/Aeromedical-Exami ... lots-(EASA)/Conditions/Otorhinolaryngology/Otorhinolaryngology-guidance-material-GM/
By riverrock
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clarkeysntfc wrote:https://www.caa.co.uk/WorkArea/Download ... 4294973817

https://www.caa.co.uk/Aeromedical-Exami ... lots-(EASA)/Conditions/Otorhinolaryngology/Otorhinolaryngology-guidance-material-GM/


The links above didn't work (the system doesn't like brackets and question marks), so try these:
https://www.caa.co.uk/Aeromedical-Examiners/Medical-standards/Pilots-(EASA)/Conditions/Otorhinolaryngology/Otorhinolaryngology-guidance-material-GM/

https://www.caa.co.uk/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=4294973817
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By Flyin'Dutch'
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#1733806
clarkeysntfc wrote:Hi all

I have a hereditary hearing loss from birth which is corrected by small (fully in ear) Widex hearing aids. My loss is below the minimum thresholds for a class 1 medical, and I visited the CAA for an initial medical but was declined on the basis of my audiogram. However they did issue me with a class 2 medical.

Fast forward to now and I have now completed my PPL. My class 2 expires in October and I'm looking at making another attempt at getting a class 1 before then.


When did you have the first Class 1 assessment?

What was done at the time?
By clarkeysntfc
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#1733850
Flyin'Dutch' wrote:
clarkeysntfc wrote:Hi all

I have a hereditary hearing loss from birth which is corrected by small (fully in ear) Widex hearing aids. My loss is below the minimum thresholds for a class 1 medical, and I visited the CAA for an initial medical but was declined on the basis of my audiogram. However they did issue me with a class 2 medical.

Fast forward to now and I have now completed my PPL. My class 2 expires in October and I'm looking at making another attempt at getting a class 1 before then.


When did you have the first Class 1 assessment?

What was done at the time?


This would have been autumn 2016. They did an audiogram without my hearing aids.
#1733854
What confused me about a functional hearing test (which I thought was in the air with a Flight Examiner) is what happens at renewal?

Also would this get you the class 1 medical that you need?
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By Flyin'Dutch'
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#1733891
@clarkeysntfc

From the CAA website:

Class 1 applicants, with hearing aids that are well tolerated and suitable for aviation purposes and which enable them to meet the audiogram requirements, should follow the guidance below.

Initial Class 1 applicants with hearing outside the standards set out in MED.B.080 (a)(1)(ii), who can demonstrate stability and no significant underlying pathology, may be considered for Class 2 certification initially with a satisfactory report from a functional hearing test (see Profound Hearing Loss below). Following the issue of a Class 2 medical certificate, the successful completion of PPL training will be considered to demonstrate that hypoacusis does not interfere with the safe exercise of the privileges and Class 1 certification will be considered with SSL (Special Restriction as Specified) limitation “Functional Hearing Assessment Required within 3 months of renewal/revalidation medical”.


Can now not remember if there has been a change in regulations since 2016 but that seems to be the route.
By clarkeysntfc
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#1733902
Flyin'Dutch' wrote:@clarkeysntfc

From the CAA website:

Class 1 applicants, with hearing aids that are well tolerated and suitable for aviation purposes and which enable them to meet the audiogram requirements, should follow the guidance below.

Initial Class 1 applicants with hearing outside the standards set out in MED.B.080 (a)(1)(ii), who can demonstrate stability and no significant underlying pathology, may be considered for Class 2 certification initially with a satisfactory report from a functional hearing test (see Profound Hearing Loss below). Following the issue of a Class 2 medical certificate, the successful completion of PPL training will be considered to demonstrate that hypoacusis does not interfere with the safe exercise of the privileges and Class 1 certification will be considered with SSL (Special Restriction as Specified) limitation “Functional Hearing Assessment Required within 3 months of renewal/revalidation medical”.


Can now not remember if there has been a change in regulations since 2016 but that seems to be the route.


Thanks - do you know who does the functional hearing assessment?
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Hello guys!

I know this post is back dated from 2019 but I just need some advice oh what to do next to keep my Initial Class 1 Easa Medical Cerificate valid.
So basically after I did the all assessmenet and got the certificate came back saying that I acctualy falied the Audiogram and that I have to repeat it. So I did go to SpecSavers, did it and the result it is kinda of the same that it is detected some mild hearing loss.
Right, I am speechless but now I heard that I should do a Functional Hearing Test and also maybe I should go to ENT specialist to be able to be diagnosed and see if something that still permits me to fly and communicate well.
First question is, the ENT does it need to be aviation associated like at the AME? Or it can be any private ENT?
Second, the Fcuntional Hearing Test, as I do not have any previous flying experience, I might not understand the language that the ATC uses to comunicte with me, how could I do it? Sounds silly but its true.
And also the functional hearing test doe it needs to be EASA approved and how can I know it is?

I really hope I could get any feedback. Thank you so much guys