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#1627503
Hi guys

I commented and said I’d go the microlight route but the other half said it’s planes that you want to learn so I took a look at that. The eyesight requirements concern me though predominantly the 2 dioptre restriction on astigmatism. Currently my prescription is

Dist. Sph. Cyl. Axis
Right. +1.25. -0.5. 180
Left. +2.5. -1.75. 12

Aided visual acuity
Right 6/5
Left 6/5

Now if I was to do the ppl it would be to eventually work towards the ppl instructor job or other means of small aircraft jobs (no interest in airline).

My first question is can you instruct for ppl and do other small aircraft jobs with a class 2 medical or do you need a class 1?

Secondly does my presecriotion reach the requirements? I don’t think my astigmatism is at the limit yet but it’s close, would they just revoke my license if it gets worse with age?

Thanks for your help

Andrew
By johnm
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#1627504
If you can get through an initial Class 2 and then your spectacle correction works each renewal I don't see why there would be a problem.

I have no idea what my prescription is and I can't see a bloody thing without my glasses but with my glasses I easily pass the check each year and my medical certificate is endorsed with the need to carry a spare pair, which of course I do anyway.
#1627505
My astigmatism is over the limit but just received my class 1. It meant I had to be checked by a second ophthalmologists to verify that I have no further conditions that could affect my eyesight - it's his choice whether he sees you or agrees with the original findings and doesn't request a visit by the patient.

Class 2 - I just had to read the snellen chart with my glasses on to the required standard.
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By Dodo
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#1627509
My understanding (retired AME) is that the astigmatism limits only apply at the initial Class 1 medical. There is a CAA prescription calculator, available for download, in the public domain. Just leave the password blank and press continue and it opens as read only. You will see that astigmatism outside initial limits is acceptable for renewal (so long as corrected vision is acceptable and no underlying eye disease). edited to add....& indeed as poster above has written, there is sometimes a route to initial certification with astigmatism outside published limits.

The calculator is here.
http://www.caa.co.uk/WorkArea/DownloadA ... 4294973557

With a class 2 and a PPL, and PPL instructor rating , I understand you can be paid to teach the PPL & LAPL. I don't believe you can do any other paid work. To do that you need a Class 1 and a CPL. Someone more knowledgable about this may be along later.
#1627583
I’d advise getting an initial medical done ASAP - as others have said renewal limits are much more relaxed. On a PPL with FI and Class 2 you can do pretty much all instruction for payment, the only real restriction is teaching for the CPL.
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By Flyin'Dutch'
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Hi

Google Adrian Chorley get on his website, make an appointment and het the Class1 eye assessment done. A fraction of the cost of the initial medical and the result is acceptable to the AeMC he does work for.

https://www.aviationvisionservices.com/about-us/

There's also a spec calculator on the website of the CAA where you can punch in the numbers, but that is not a substitute for an assessment with Adrian.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjPpsvKgubtAhWJPOwKHUmSCOQQFjAAegQIAxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.caa.co.uk%2FWorkArea%2FDownloadAsset.aspx%3Fid%3D4294992267&usg=AOvVaw2Rqb_mLxQDH6SEVdYKTwkd

Surgery to get within limits is futile as they go by the previous uncorrected status.

Good luck.
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By Flyin'Dutch'
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Jon G4LJW wrote:
Flyin'Dutch' wrote:Hi

.....

Surgery to get within limits is futile as they go by the previous uncorrected status.

Good luck.


".....stability of refraction must be demonstrated before recertification....."

https://www.caa.co.uk/Aeromedical-Examiners/Medical-standards/Pilots-(EASA)/Conditions/Visual/Guidance-following-eye-surgery/


And your point is?

:?: :scratch:
#1819105
Flyin'Dutch' wrote:
Jon G4LJW wrote:
Flyin'Dutch' wrote:Hi

.....

Surgery to get within limits is futile as they go by the previous uncorrected status.

Good luck.


".....stability of refraction must be demonstrated before recertification....."

https://www.caa.co.uk/Aeromedical-Examiners/Medical-standards/Pilots-(EASA)/Conditions/Visual/Guidance-following-eye-surgery/


And your point is?

:?: :scratch:


Well, I remember looking for CAA guidance on eye surgery some years ago, and there was a limit for uncorrected vision of -6 I think. I can't find a reference to that anymore.

Cheers,

Jon.