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By kingbing
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Hi all.

A search brought up no obvious answers, but can an EASA PPL holder add a rating from a non-EASA ICAO country to their ICAO licence? eg taildragger, mountain flying, complex, or night VFR?

Many thanks.
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By Irv Lee
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Well some of the things you mention are not ratings but to add some info without actually answering fully, I have some vague memory that in the early days of EASA, you could add foreign ratings when converting from a UK licence to an EASA licence, but could not go back later and add foreign ones so easily. However, I suspect @Cookie will know if I am spreading false news, he will no doubt be up on this.
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By Cookie
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#1564198
kingbing,

Do you already hold the privileges or rating on a non-EASA ICAO licence and wish to convert them, or are you asking if you can complete a non-EASA course which could be rendered valid for issue of those privileges onto an EASA licence?

Cookie
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By Cookie
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#1564235
Tailwheel, retractable undercarriage, and constant speed propellers, are all considered differences within the SEP class, and therefore require differences training. Within EASA Part-FCL, there is the following statement:

GM1 FCL.005 Scope

INTERPRETATIVE MATERIAL
(a) Whenever licences, ratings, approvals or certificates are mentioned in Part-FCL, these are meant to be valid licences, ratings, approvals or certificates issued in accordance with Part-FCL. In all other cases, these documents are specified.


FCL.710
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(c) The differences training shall be entered in the pilot’s logbook or equivalent record and signed by the instructor as appropriate.


Therefore, where they talk about an instructor in FCL.710, it means an instructor certified in accordance with Part-FCL. There is no course of training mandated for differences training. So, you could complete some differences training with a non-EASA instructor when abroad. However, completion of that training must be with an EASA instructor who can then sign your logbook.

For EASA ratings such as the Mountain Rating or Night Rating, for EASA licence holders, training for these must be completed under an EASA Approved Training Organisation as an approved course in accordance with the associated syllabus.

You could complete some mountain or night training whilst abroad, but this would not reduce the minimum training requirements for the EASA course - unless you hold the privileges on a non-EASA licence.

There are a couple of exceptions to the above advice providing your holiday is before 08th April 2018...

Cookie
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Cookie wrote:For EASA ratings such as the Mountain Rating or Night Rating, for EASA licence holders, training for these must be completed under an EASA Approved Training Organisation as an approved course in accordance with the associated syllabus.

Cookie


Indeed, note also that assuming the timetable for DTO stays on track, during 2018 you will also be able to complete Mountain or Night Ratings at an EASA Declared Training Organisation (DTO),.

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[It is generally thought that a DTO should have lower overheads that a full ATO; one hopes this will then translate to lower bottom line aircraft hire rates compared to an ATO everything else being equal.]