Sir Morley Steven wrote:I don't get it Irv. Why like a form that simply isn't fit for purpose? Its a dreadful mishmash and thus open to incorrect completion playing into the hands of the “10 day turnaround” jobsworths.
No change for me in the current arrangement, I've used 1157 for years for normal revalidation by experience, reasons below, and the new scheme is to do exactly what I do now and have been doing - fill in an 1157 and scan and email in a copy.
1157 was changed early in its EASA life (let's say 2013, could even have been earlier) to include reval by experience, because 1119E required 2 pages to be printed and copied, and some people objected to the waste of ink/paper. The CAA decided it didn't need the 'training date' and the 'hours' that it was asking for on 1119e so it just added the ability to 'reval by experience' into 1157 without them, and accept just page 1 of 1157 for reval by experience as it was all detailed on page one.
So I have used 1157 for 8 years-ish for reval by experience, and must have done 'three figures' of them or high double figures, so saved a lot of ink and copying. 1157 is much easier than 1119e in practice as you don't have to total anything other than know the requirements have been met/exceeded. If someone comes up to me for a reval by experience, i don't have to look at every flight, I only need to know they have done enough. I just spot the training hour has been done, (tick), see that more than 12 flights have been done for 12 to&l without needing to count the actual totals, and often see just 11 separate flights have been done that are 1 hour or more - without actually totalling or even counting up the minutes, because a training hour plus 11 flights of an hour or more meets requirements.
Obviously if there aren't many flights, they have to be looked at in more detail, and perhaps added up to check the 12 hours, but often there are enough entries with 'times' of an hour or over to mean requirements MUST have been exceeded - so with 1157 I often don't need to check any totalling in the log book or copy any date of training flight as long as I know everything required has been exceeded - whereas for the 1119e, I have to actually 'total'.
Then of course, much more recently, the curse of the 'new CAA staff' arrived, and presumably being millennials, had no interest in history, so when they were told to add a single small tick box for 'PBN' to 1157, had no interest that it had been designed as a one-pager for reval by experience, and duly allocated about a 6th of page one of the form to one tiny tick box, forcing an extra page. I was also lucky enough to be in the right place to eavesdrop on one of the remaining old lags in the CAA when he found out his newer colleagues had pushed 1157 to 3 pages (therefore now needing 2 for reval by experience) without consulting the 'longer-in-the-tooth' members of the team. I couldn't have expressed my feelings better than he did.
Irv Lee - (R/T & Flight Examiner)
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