[Collins]

Hi all,
Could you please help me by filling out the survey I am conducting regarding SAF and its awareness? It is for my dissertation. Thank you to all and I hope I get some responses from you. The link to the survey is: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIp ... sp=sf_link

[PeteSpencer]

I have never heard of Sustainable Aviation Fuel , so reading through your questionnaire I could not get past question 3 as I am not able to voice an opinion of any sort on something about which I know nothing.

You are likely to get a better response from us cynical pilots if you put your mind to preparing a couple of paragraphs describing sustainable aviation fuel, its origins, constituents, proposed uses etc as an adjunct to the questionnaire as without this many will stick at Qu 3.

I am afraid life is too short to go googling it just for your questionnaire.

Peter
Edit for typo

[TopCat]

I am afraid life is too short to go googling it just for your questionnaire.

Very much agree.

I find this sort of thing irritating in the extreme. I'm always minded to help where I can, but when I see such poor planning, understanding of audience, presentation of request, etc, I just think....

No.

Go away and learn that research is about more than throwing together a few questions and expecting people to do your work for you.

You want answers to your survey questions?

Why not explain your project, give some background, why is the research of interest, what problems does it seek to address, how will the answers be used?

Not even bothering to say what sustainable aviation fuel is, is really very poor. Even if many of us here are capable of making a guess at what it is, it's not our job to do your work for you.

[simon32]

I have filled in your questionnaire, after having had a look at Wikipedia on SAF and I quote a passage.
Under many carbon emission regulation schemes, such as the European Union Emissions Trading Scheme, a certified SAF product may be granted an exemption from an associated carbon compliance liability cost. This marginally improves the economic competitiveness of environmentally favourable SAF over traditional fossil-based jet fuel. However, in the near term there are several commercialisation and regulatory hurdles that are yet to be overcome through the collaboration of a variety of stakeholders for SAF products to meet price parity with traditional jet fuel and to enable widespread uptake.
Aircraft will still burn fuel and release CO2, but regulatory bodies will determine if the fuel is produced from a sustainable source. The chemistry is slightly changed, but I see more room for politics than technology here. I am not prepared to pay more for a ticket on an aircraft that uses SAF, I would fly less.
Simon

[townleyc]

You might also get a better response if you didn't SHOUT!

KE

[Rob L]

Collins:

Firstly: who are you? First name, last name, or a combination would help. (Simon Collins would appear to be your case, so why not subscribe with your full name )

Block capitals is a bit rude (as already mentioned).

I don't believe there are sustainable aviation fuels. Do you really believe that the military jets or Space-X can run on hydrogen or on batteries?

My age group or my employment status has no relevance, so I'll pass.

Rob

[Paul_Sengupta]

If everyone stops using petrol for cars, then avgas becomes sustainable for much longer!

(though it may be too expensive to produce!)

[Flyin'Dutch']

I have stopped contributing to these for exactly the reasons mentioned already.

It was the questionnaire about vision for pilots that did it for me. The questions made it clear that the student did not have a clue about flying or vision nor had bothered to talk to anyone who could have helped them put something cogent together.

Makes me question the validity of the rest of the course if there so clearly is no interest to achieve any academic standard and the standard of their 'university' It's at a level that should make a first semester undergraduate blush.

[PeteSpencer]

Anybody see our resident expert GtE being quoted by Sunday Telegraph on the subject of SAF yesterday.?

[Bill McCarthy]

There goes young Collins sent packing with his tail between his legs with loads of “encouragement” , never to darken these pages again. I’m quite taken aback by the shocking treatment of him by senior members who could have offered some tech assistance and advice a bit more professionally perhaps.

[Flyin'Dutch']

@Bill McCarthy

As someone who has been less than complimentary I will take you up on that.

Writing a dissertation should be based on more than can be gathered from twenty some questions on an internet forum; unlike at primary school, in real life there are losers and winners and doing a dissertation as part of a Batchelor's is very short before moving into the real world.

No doubt his uni-team will provide some comforting words and help in getting better.

[Genghis the Engineer]

Anybody see our resident expert GtE being quoted by Sunday Telegraph on the subject of SAF yesterday.?

I did!

G

[Genghis the Engineer]

@Bill McCarthy

As someone who has been less than complimentary I will take you up on that.

Writing a dissertation should be based on more than can be gathered from twenty some questions on an internet forum; unlike at primary school, in real life there are losers and winners and doing a dissertation as part of a Batchelor's is very short before moving into the real world.

No doubt his uni-team will provide some comforting words and help in getting better.

Social science style surveys on what should be treated as hard technical subjects, that start with unstated assumptions about the participant's knowledge seem to be on the increase in dissertations from post-92 universities in particular. I really do wonder at the quality of supervision going on. I would certainly not have signed this off for a student whose degree project I was supervising. It is a month or so until hand-in at most universities in the UK so also smacks somewhat of desperation to pull something out of the hat at the last minute.

Age is certainly, amongst other weaknesses, not a particularly obvious qualifier in assessing somebody's knowledge of a topic. Qualifications and job are probably rather important!

I note also no statement about data handling and confidentiality- that is probably an instant fail from the assessors anyhow.

G

[Rob L]

......Social science style surveys on what should be treated as hard technical subjects, that start with unstated assumptions about the participant's knowledge seem to be on the increase in dissertations from post-92 universities in particular. I really do wonder at the quality of supervision going on. I would certainly not have signed this off for a student whose degree project I was supervising.....
G

(heavy snip by Rob L and my bold above)

Do you mean post-1992, and if so why? Genuine question.
Rob

[Flyin'Dutch']

Was that not the year that Polytechnical High Schools could rebrand as universities?