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@JAFO, working, whatever uniform the military have assessed as appropriate for whatever duty they are carrying out. When drafted in to assist with the roll out of a national vaccination I suggest camouflage uniform is not the most appropriate uniform to wear in a village hall when dealing with the general public.

As I said, IMO, the objective of encouraging people to come and be vaccinated is best achieved by making people comfortable in surroundings they are at ease in. Best achieved, I would argue, by meeting previous experience of going for an injection. :D As I said, not everyone is comfortable with the military, or the police. You and I clearly are comfortable with it.

If I was taking decisions I would have them in NHS type uniform, if for some reason that was not possible it would not be what many will see as combat kit.

It's only an opinion. I have no idea whether it will have any impact, or not. What I can say is that we arrived 3 hrs before my appointment and 5 or 6 hours before Jane's. We were both taken there and then. Maybe the military chased them all away. :wink:
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StratoTramp wrote:When 100% of the people are vacinated against covid, 100% of the people in hospital with covid will be vacinated against covid. It never ends. It is all about control.


It really isn't about control. It is all about making that 100% in hospital a much lower absolute number. And, that is exactly what is happening.
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Miscellaneous wrote:..we arrived 3 hrs before my appointment and 5 or 6 hours before Jane's. We were both taken there and then. ..


at our centre appointments are meant to be assigned to the minute to achieve an even flow through the day, but anyone with an appointment arriving early (even very early) just joins the back of any queue. However, sometimes an early rush of earlies, or (rare) no-shows or very lates, may mean that there is a slack period with no queue.
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The last 2 times, Mrs PtP and I were scheduled a few hours apart on the same day. As we have a 20 mile round trip, we just turned up together in time for my appointment which was the earlier. Nothing was said. We simply joined the queue.

They seem to be quite flexible where we go - Cwmbran stadium. That strikes me as sensible.
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By StratoTramp
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Two years and 418 pages and people still can't grasp that making supercilious comments changes nothing, if anything it has the opposite effect.

It's not even about grasping the science it's about whether it should be followed. Differences in opinion on what "managable" means. Whether we should even try to manage. Whether the science is even correct / which piece of science.

Cost/benefit. Is the backlog of 6 million created by this managable etc. Those illnesses maybe has 2 more years to develop. Become more complicated to treat. On balance it might have been sensible to take the covid infection risk and try to treat etc.

For now the government is on the right track out of this, listening to the scientists yet not letting them rule, even though their messaging is rubbish. Let's hope bojo doesn't turn into a simp again. A timid authoritarian is probably the worst mix, similar to a frightened dog. Need leadership out.
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#1886652
Queue, what's this queue you talk of? :lol: There was no queue. I only know so much about who was who as I had time for a chat with the marine during the 15min post jab precautionary wait. He wasn't very busy.

Jane has had a bit of an earache for a few days, wasn't going away and decided not to persevere over the weekend. Called the surgery yesterday about 09.15, doc called back at 10.00. Couple of minutes on the phone before deciding to see her. Appointment arranged for 12.00, prescription collected from reception prior to leaving the surgery. :D

Just as it should be!! :thumright:
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By johnm
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This quote from comedian Jimmy Carr was really quite good I thought:

"The spread of Covid was directly linked to how dense the population is,” Jimmy said later on. “And some of the population are really quite **** dense"
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By StratoTramp
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johnm wrote:This quote from comedian Jimmy Carr was really quite good I thought:

"The spread of Covid was directly linked to how dense the population is,” Jimmy said later on. “And some of the population are really quite **** dense"


Come on, neither you nor Jimmy Carr are the supreme arbiter of intelligence. He is funny occasionally, but also a tax avoider. The £168 million of tax avoided in the K2 scheme could have paid for a lot of doctors and nurses (2012 money). Perhaps even a pandemic early warning centre. He is the standard champagne socialist.

johnm wrote:There is a case for draconian measures in respect of Covid simply because a significant chunk of the population is too stupid to simply do the sensible thing on their own initiative.


It's a bit of a pattern. I'm surprised humanity can get anything done being so dumb compared to your greatness. :lol:
#1886673
Woo Hoo! Just got an email to confirm that I am officially clear of the virus after returning to the UK. Off to the pub for an English pint now. :wink:

In all seriousness, having dropped the boxes off at the collection point yesterday late afternoon for onward transmission to the lab in Northern Ireland, I think that is rather impressive.

Top tip: if you need to order Randox PCR tests for delivery while you are abroad to be be ready for your return, order them separately rather than as a couple and then they will fit individually through the letter box as two rather than one package.

PW
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StratoTramp wrote:
Cost/benefit. Is the backlog of 6 million created by this managable etc. Those illnesses maybe has 2 more years to develop. Become more complicated to treat. On balance it might have been sensible to take the covid infection risk and try to treat etc .



The retrospectoscope you gave is powerful isn’t it?
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By flybymike
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And possibly accurate as well.

https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/10/11/e043828

Conclusions Dramatic reductions were detected in the demand for, and supply of, cancer services which have not fully recovered with lockdown easing. These may contribute, over a 1-year time horizon, to substantial excess mortality among people with cancer and multimorbidity. It is urgent to understand how the recovery of general practitioner, oncology and other hospital services might best mitigate these long-term excess mortality risks.
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