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A4 Pacific wrote:@eltonioni

Then why this then?...


My guess would be it's because one is an epidemic model verified with subsequent real-world clinical data and the other is a microbiologist's opinion about social matters. Perhaps he could also give us his opinion on who's going to win the St Leger next year?

The bottom line is that vaccines have emptied our hospitals and everyone needs to go back to work. Anyone who's worrying about what they see in their greasy crystal ball needs to stay indoors and consider fashioning a hat from tinfoil. (Sweeping statement but you get the idea)
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By johnm
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#1851806
Jeremy Farrar reminding his audience of data scientists that from a global perspective we are nearer the beginning of the pandemic than the end.......
#1851861
Globally yes, but locally? Latest UK numbers were something like 83% (IIRC) of cases had not been vaccinated. Minor percentages of single and double dosed.

Sort ourselves out, then move on to help the rest of the world.

The local news has just come on, 8 cases in hospital compared to 2,000 plus at the peak. Vaccination refuseniks should be offered the jab or the virus.
By johnm
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#1851908
Charles Hunt wrote:We need the data on how many of those have been immunised before we know whether or not to be concerned.


I suspect this is the reason for blitz on testing and vaccination in the Manchester and Lancashire area......
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A new series of R4's "More or less" started last week :thumright: .. Weds, 0900

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qshd

Today's episode's first snippet was with the articulate Cambridge Professor of (as heard/remembered, possibly not quite right :oops: ) 'Communication of risk', or something like that, who's been on before. Very good, as usual; today talking about the actual (unsurprisingly, minimal) 'risk' of taking the AZ jab, and on the significance of recent growth in infections compared to the starts of the 1st and 2nd waves
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@kanga I haven't listened to the latest More Or Less but so presumably would be Carl Hennigan? He's excellent, though being a communicator he does have a bit of a tendency to adjust his media output according to what the particular programme is tilting at which sometimes puts a bit too much colour on what he says. It was a bit of a problem when More Or Less spent an embarrassing amount of their precious minutes trying to catch out the Government on testing numbers. With that caveat though, Hennigan is very good.

A couple of other geneally sane commentators worth following on the medical side would include Tim Spectre of Zoe. His Achilles heel, such as it is, is that he needs to pump the ZOE app which is both the source of his excellent data and his pension.


... and John Campbell - his latest is relevant to the last few posts on who's currently being hospitalised using USA CDC data. He has a bee in his bonnet about Vitamin D deficiency, which he may well be right about.


Pick your bias, etc :)
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