OCB wrote:Jim Jones wrote:eltonioni wrote:[
The NHS just needs privatising.
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The core purpose of private health care is to generate profit (see USA health model, BT, Railtrack, BAE systems)
I deliver treatment via a 3rd sector charity, non profit. I can't see how a profit making motive would improve it
@Jim Jones - there’s a fundamental difference between generating profit, and maximising profit.
I can understand that in the interest of efficiency, being at least “profitable” could be an objective in healthcare.
Maximising profit off of healthcare - that’s quickly into Godwin territory.
It's a difficult one as there is the effect of the universities - but would love to see the NHS designing a CT or MRI machine... You need the profit motive and big money to develop these things.
Though... was university education paid for in the EMI days? Or more of a privately funded endeavour as it is today? 1960s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... tomographyPrivate enterprise does a lot for healthcare. Like OCB says it can be taken to far, but it is needed. Doubt we would have any of the vaccines if it was state funded. Smart people need to be rewarded. Saying it's for "the people" is rarely enough! (I know antibiotic research is underfunded, as a result of no 'easy' payoff).
We see continuously on this thread that "other people" are "idiots" (less so now johnm posting less).
But if this belief is so commonly held... you are more likely to convince people with working for profit rather than working for than "other idiot douche people".
My view is humanity is underrated. People are concomitantly smart and dumb in different dimensions. You would hire Elon to make you a spaceship but not paint a Picasso and vice versa. Almost everyone has something to offer.
Outside of a war environment I don't think the state can innovate. Even in a war environment it is mostly private enterprise. That said "cost plus" in the cold war and the like (unlimited bill to government)
I am tying myself in knots.
I do volunteer about 40-80 hours a year to an archery club. But that's about the extent of my good will to other people even if I personally don't think they are all "idiots" and are "good people" instead.
Complete oxymoron but if you paid me to volunteer I would do a lot more.
I.e. I see some value in providing a public good, irrespective of costs... to a point.
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