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By Rob P
#1781963
One D. Trump has just tweeted:



I am uncertain he has got this quite correct.

Rob P

I am, of course, quoting the reality TV 'star', not a political figure, though they do overlap at some points.
By johnm
#1781989
Hmmm

Michael Faraday pioneered electricity generation having observed Benjamin Franklin's efforts

Ernest Rutherford split the atom

Alexander Graham Bell produced the telephone built on work done in France and (I think ) Italy and his own efforts for the deaf

I'll give him the Internet as packet switching was proposed by an American computer scientist and the US Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency funded Arpanet which initially used specialised protocols developed by BBN in Boston and they evolved to TCP/IP and thus the Internet. However Tim Berners-Lee came up with the World Wide Web.
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By Rob P
#1781993
What seems to have upset the US Twitterati most, and I'm inclined to agree with them, is the "Wild West" nonsense; most pointing out that it was effectively genocide of the original American people.

Rob P
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By Sooty25
#1782020
It's okay, we'll soon be rid of him, Kanye West is going to stand in the next election, then we'll all be saved from the Trump stupidity!
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By Propwash
#1782109
The USA is a strange country: it has a lot going for it, has contributed a lot to the world's development and its people can often be extremely friendly, polite and hospitable (sometimes to an uncomfortable degree for more reserved Brits). But it also needs to believe that it, and it alone, has been pivotal to Man's progress in today's world, has many citizens who believe the only important world begins and ends at its borders and are happily ignorant of the world beyond to a remarkable extent. Many show no curiosity of that other world which is why Hollywood will remake popular films like The Italian Job or War of the Worlds, relocating them to the USA from their original roots. Why would we expect any of their politicians to be any different? They know their target audience.

I like most of the Americans I have met (and the few I worked with) but I have never really understood them.

PW
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By johnm
#1782111
@Propwash I have worked with Americans and count a few as friends, I struggled to understand them too and eventually rationalised it.

Americans don't actually exist. They are actors playing multiple roles, so you get the PA who is also a Soccer Mom. The VP who is a part time football coach.

Each role has behaviour expectation and they follow the script.

We tested this at one point when I as a technical director and my mischievous mate (finance director) visited our Florida plant and quite deliberately stepped out of role and played about in the office like naughty school boys. At home we'd have been laughed at by colleagues and staff, but Americans were utterly non-plussed and VERY uncomfortable to the extent we had to apologise and explain it was just the British sense of humour.

They in their turn were much relieved to be able to attach us to a comforting stereotype :-)
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By Genghis the Engineer
#1782115
Rob P wrote:What seems to have upset the US Twitterati most, and I'm inclined to agree with them, is the "Wild West" nonsense; most pointing out that it was effectively genocide of the original American people.

Rob P


In that context, it's interesting to note just how incredibly offensive to many Native Americans the recent Trump rally was in front of Mount Rushmore. Lots on the web about it, and the general feeling about that monument in itself.

The continuous offense given to that ethnic community is marked !

G
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