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By kanga
#1704578
Nomad63 wrote:Wouldn't suprise me that Google has a few desks at Menwith Hill, ..


it would greatly surprise me. Why should Google, who will probably have more storage and data processing and global communications capacity than any mere Government Agency, bother ? They can do what they do directly, with users' implicit and legally arguable permission, without any need to apply for any pesky Warrants .. :roll: :)
By Nomad63
#1704579
kanga wrote:
Nomad63 wrote:Wouldn't suprise me that Google has a few desks at Menwith Hill, ..


it would greatly surprise me. Why should Google, who will probably have more storage and data processing and global communications capacity than any mere Government Agency, bother ? They can do what they do directly, with users' implicit and legally arguable permission, without any need to apply for any pesky Warrants .. :roll: :)


Google would be the ones helping the NSA not the other way round :thumright:

P.S. Warrants???, you is aving a giraffe :lol:
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By kanga
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Nomad63 wrote:So you belive the NSA applies for a Warrant before engaging in surveillance?
You have heard of Echelon and Raptor I presume?


I gathered during a very interesting talk from a pertinently specialist US lawyer that FISA is the current relevant US Federal Law, with appropriate Court and Congressional Committee oversights:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_I ... llance_Act

[since 'Echelon' first emerged as a reported project name >40 years ago, in the TELEX era, I doubt it has any relevance today. Both technology and the law and oversight mechanisms will have moved on]

Obviously, other Forumites may know differently, but may not be at liberty to share :) Anyway, my point was that these are constraints which need not bother the social media companies, since, supposedly, they process and analyse only material which individuals have consented to provide :roll:
By Nomad63
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[since 'Echelon' first emerged as a reported project name >40 years ago, in the TELEX era, I doubt it has any relevance today. Both technology and the law and oversight mechanisms will have moved on]

Raptor replaced it, I dont know if Raptor has been replaced, I think you missed my initial point or just chose to steer away from it