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#1664586
Lot of talk on here about it depending on the intent of the user. I prefer to think it depends on the intent of the designer.
AK 47 - a weapon because it was designed to kill people, though it could be used otherwise
12 bore shotgun - not a weapon, though it could be used to kill people
2lb hammer - not a weapon, though it could be used to kill people
Vickers Supermarket Spitfire - a weapon, though it could be used otherwise
Etc
Etc

One of the things that makes the human animal so dangerous is that it can use pretty much anything to kill. Most animals just have their teeth, or don't bother.
#1664593
Chris Martyr wrote:The thing that decides what is or is not a weapon , most definitely IS the user .

Nonsense, that’s to say there’s no such thing as a weapon until an item is used as such?

Weapons are designed and manufactured as such.

Other items are designed and manufactured for other purposes but may be used as a weapon.

A knife used as a screwdriver is still a knife, it doesn’t become a screwdriver. A rock used to hammer in a tent peg is still a rock....

A cruise missile on the other hand...
#1664633
Miscellaneous wrote:
Weapons are designed and manufactured as such.

Other items are designed and manufactured for other purposes but may be used as a weapon.



I don't disagree, Misc, but if we take as a working definition of a weapon something which is primarily designed to harm / injure / kill a living creature, then we would need to regard fishing rods and reels, butterfly nets, mousetraps, fly sprays, and so on as weapons.

Bill H
#1664712
I think everyone this side of the pond is terrified of being labelled a “gun nut”, especially considering how viciously the British Meedja will go after folks.

Dunno the exact stats, but aren’t (military) airshows one of the most popular outdoor activities or summit?

All those millions of people in adulation of weapons systems.... :roll:
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#1665567
...sneakily getting back to guns...anyone here shoot PCP airguns?

They are unrestricted here, meaning I could if I wanted get a .50 cal pneumatic. Before anyone laughs, check the YouTube vids.

More interested in a PCP bull pup that I can adjust power from 25m .22 target to 100m plus 7.62. I am a bit stuck on the FX range, wondered if anyone else shot PCP?
#1670374
Bill Haddow wrote:I don't disagree, Misc, but if we take as a working definition of a weapon something which is primarily designed to harm / injure / kill a living creature, then we would need to regard fishing rods and reels, butterfly nets, mousetraps, fly sprays, and so on as weapons.


Is the distinction made where the targets are humans rather than animals? (not saying that's right or wrong)

The shotgun example, for instance, being generally regarded as not a weapon, but can be used to great effect against pheasants. I tend to find those clay things a little crunchy though unless you soak them first.

OCB wrote:...sneakily getting back to guns...anyone here shoot PCP airguns?


Is that one where you pay half over three years?
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#1670403
WRT plinkers, PCP is obviously Pre Charged Pneumatic. :roll:

It did raise my curiosity the first time I saw it in the air gun world, as my only only reference to that acronym was whilst doing psychopharmacology as part of a degree.I think it was also mentioned in the first Terminator film...

For the curious, google “Phenylcyclohexyl piperidine”