Leodisflyer wrote:Getting back to the topic and next steps that Parliament is debating, can anybody find anything in the election manifestos of the main parties that gives them a mandate for no deal?
The Conservative manifesto is very clear on promising a deal and a good future training relationship. If you go back to it and use it as a baseline then like it or loathe the deal on offer, it does meet an electoral promise.
If Parliament can’t accept the deal then it does look as though the democratic next step is some form of public vote as the main parties didn’t seek a mandate for no deal in the GE and no deal is counter to the promises made in the referendum campaign.
Top of page 36. There’s no promise of any particular deal that I can see, just the promise to negotiate as a strong and stable government and that “no deal is better than a bad deal”, so it’s still no deal.https://www.conservatives.com/manifesto
Labour promised Brexit with unicorns.https://labour.org.uk/manifesto/negotia ... xit/#first
We voted in a weak and wobbly government and No Deal is the law, both domestic and international, so it’s still no deal. Parliament can’t even agree what they don’t like, never mind what they want, so it’s still no deal.
I picked up an interesting point yesterday, that the Crown (the PM in daily practice ) is sovereign over international law, not Parliament. Parliament can huff and puff all it likes but if she wants to ignore the debate, amendments, votes etc, she can, so it’s still no deal.
Forcing a GE seems the only way to change the situation, although yesterday even Ken Clarke said he’d vote for May’s bad deal so there’s no obvious Tory appetite for the required no confidence vote even if it means leaving, so it’s still no deal.
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