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By eltonioni
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Flyin'Dutch' wrote:
eltonioni wrote:Presumably Eurotunnel have more ferries than Seaborne and their lawyer counts like Diane Abbott.


@eltonioni If similar happened to your business you would just lean back and be happy with the government?

Irrespective of views on other matters, it must be a concern when the Government acts in such a cavalier manner.

Or?



Similar to what - HMG directly negotiating contracts with firms that do something different to mine? Not sure that even Grayling can be credibly brought to task over that.
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By Flyin'Dutch'
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Did you happen to mention confirmation bias a few posts back?
By johnm
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I’m not sure what Eurotunnel’s position is except that they have spent money on organising extra capacity and might want recompense.

More of a concern is the growing belief that May will run the clock down to no deal, because her primary concern is holding her party together and any price is payable to achieve that.

The very fact that such an idea has credence highlights deep seated issues with our political system that we need to get fixed.
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By eltonioni
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Flyin'Dutch' wrote:Did you happen to mention confirmation bias a few posts back?

I certainly did, but I can't really see what confirmation bias is coming onto play here because I can't identify specifically why Eurotunnel expected to be asked to run a cross channel ferry service so I am happy to be enlightened if you can.
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By Flyin'Dutch'
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Although the mode of transport is different the aim is the same; to move from A to B and vice versa.
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By eltonioni
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Flyin'Dutch' wrote:Although the mode of transport is different the aim is the same; to move from A to B and vice versa.

You asked me about my business. If I provided an office for somebody who wanted a factory, they are supercially the same in that they contain people and things, but let's be honest, they really aren't the same at all.

Your trade; would I be expect you to perform colorectal surgery if you were an orthopedic specialist?

Comparing trains and ferries just because they go from the UK to France is the same. I'm not seeing much substance to Eurotunnel's complaint FD unless you've got a better way of explaining it to me. Neither am I remotely a Grayling fan - maybe it's your confirmation bias at work here?
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By kanga
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On one of the R4 news programmes over the weekend there was a summary of the Minister's less successful or durable initiatives in former posts. There seems to have been a pattern of his decisions being overturned by courts (sometimes after expensive legal defence at taxpayers' expense) or promptly reversed by his successor in post. Some might, possibly unfairly, suggest that this has shown a tendency not to w seek or to heed officcials' including Treasury Solicitors' advice. I personally am in no position to know whether this is indeed fair or not. :roll:

He has, however, been unfailingly loyal in public to the PM, rather more so than some of his Ministerial colleagues. Obviously, this may have no bearing on his continuing survival in Ministerial posts.
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By Sooty25
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I never quite understood the need for more capacity, I'd have thought less traffic was on the books, and what happened about Manston being used as a holding area, wouldn't that resolve any traffic issues?
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By Sooty25
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johnm wrote:it gets better and better


it may shock you my Lord, but people won't stop dying if we stay in the EU, but if our source of body bags is from one of the other EU27, it does make sense to have a few extra in stock. It just doesn't make sense to announce it unless your intent is to feed the media.
By johnm
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I thought it an amusing illustration that planning for damage limitation is now reaching disaster recovery levels, while there is still not a solitary plausible benefit. :lol:
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By Sooty25
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johnm wrote:I thought it an amusing illustration that planning for damage limitation is now reaching disaster recovery levels, while there is still not a solitary plausible benefit. :lol:


there are benefits, your blinkers just won't let you see them.
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By Flyin'Dutch'
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eltonioni wrote:Hysterical, in both senses.


The irony is that the Government officially takes the line that all will be well (whether a deal is done or not) the reality is that they are just doing some good old fashioned stockpiling 'just in case'

Cognitive dissonance.

A feature common amongst the brexit protagonists.
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