gasman wrote:The Flyer Lynch Mob gives their predictable responses.
If a scooter rider is seriously injured (as will happen) then the police will be charged with using disproportionate force.
Innocent pedestrians and motorists will inevitably be harmed in time by this police action.
Surely prevention is better than a cure ?
Intelligence led proactive policing is far better than wild-west tactics.
Standing by for incoming indignation......
This is prevention!
These gangs use violence on owners to steal the scooter/moped/motorcycle whilst the owner is riding it or whilst it is parked at home or in the garage. The thieves use or threaten to use an array of weapons from hammers, crow bars, baseball bats, knives, battery powered tools, acid spray. If at the owners home they may cause extra collateral damage (e.g, damage to cars and other property) if the owner intervenes to deter the owner fighting back.
If whilst the owner is riding it, it is likely when stopped for a red traffic light and a group surround the rider - if the rider is to escape with their motorcycle they have to realize what is happening and ride through red lights whilst being chased, and to prevent that the thieves will try to get at the engine kill switch before the rider knows whats happening.
When using a scooter/moped/motorcycle to commit another crime, the thieves will ride very dangerously anyway to get away from pursuit by the police or general public. So they risk injuring innocent pedestrians, children, puppies and cyclists anyway.
Some thieves will throw a helmet away knowing the police were historically likely to stop the chase. There is footage of this on reality tv crash/crime programs and online. So thieves are prepared to risk head injury to themselves to get away whilst running through red lights and give ways without stopping, riding up paths, off road, wrong way on one way streets, plus they could crash for any of the more usual reasons.
Now the police tactics have changed to knock thieves off scooters/mopeds/motorcycles this will hopefully break the cycle as word spreads the thieves risk something between a bruising and ending up in A&E whilst being recorded by police for the prosecution, judge and jury. The police will be trained to pick their moment to reduce the need for A&E.
Yes it is sad it has come to this but something has to change to prevent it for all the victims .
Yes it is unfortunate if a thief is injured by the police, but on balance this is proportionate to the number of direct victims of their crimes that may have life changing physical or mental health consequences as well as financial losses and perhaps data theft and identity theft.
Some will say it is also proportionate to the rest of the population (indirect victims) that pay for it through higher cost house insurance and motoring/riding insurance.
What else can be done other than general public bystanders swarming a few thieves on mopeds at the scene of crime and sitting on them until the police arrive?