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Re: So, I just bought another one (LEAF)

PostPosted:Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:16 pm
by Flyin'Dutch'
malcolmfrost wrote:BMW i3 service plan! For what? :o
Servicing
The BMW i3 service plan costs just £239 annually and includes full diagnostic checks and parts replacement if required for electrical items.


No service plan for mine; I fear they may try to stiff me for the service which is due 2 months before the lease ends.

Any smart suggestions?

Re: So, I just bought another one (LEAF)

PostPosted:Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:40 pm
by Colonel Panic
malcolmfrost wrote:BMW i3 service plan! For what? :o
Servicing
The BMW i3 service plan costs just £239 annually and includes full diagnostic checks and parts replacement if required for electrical items.


Or in other words, they will _look_ at the bits that are likely to go wrong (& charge you on top to replace them), and replace parts for the bits that are unlikely to go wrong FOC.

Bargain!

Re: So, I just bought another one (LEAF)

PostPosted:Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:49 pm
by Rob P
Ah yes, but they have to erect freestanding plastic barriers with "Shock Hazard" notices around the service bay.

Rob P

Re: So, I just bought another one (LEAF)

PostPosted:Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:53 pm
by Jim Jones
Flyin'Dutch' wrote:
malcolmfrost wrote:BMW i3 service plan! For what? :o
Servicing
The BMW i3 service plan costs just £239 annually and includes full diagnostic checks and parts replacement if required for electrical items.


No service plan for mine; I fear they may try to stiff me for the service which is due 2 months before the lease ends.

Any smart suggestions?



PCP due to end on my Evoque. It had yet another camera going blurry, the battery struggled to open the tailgate and stop start had er, .. stopped. A service was due .
I gave it back early.

Re: So, I just bought another one (LEAF)

PostPosted:Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:57 pm
by Flyin'Dutch'
Jim Jones wrote:
PCP due to end on my Evoque. It had yet another camera going blurry, the battery struggled to open the tailgate and stop start had er, .. stopped. A service was due .
I gave it back early.


Reassuring to learn that Landrover still build cr@p cars.

I will investigate whether giving it back earlier is an option. Lease ends August, Service due, according to 'The thing' June.

Re: So, I just bought another one (LEAF)

PostPosted:Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:09 pm
by Rob P
Talking of the always elusive $35,000 base Model 3

Telsa stopped listing the $35,000 version of the Model 3 or even producing it, but in order to still be able to say that it is making a $35,000 Model 3 as promised, they would sell a Model 3 Standard Range Plus (now $38,000) and software-locked some features with a $3,000 discount


Rob P

Re: So, I just bought another one (LEAF)

PostPosted:Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:48 am
by Colonel Panic
Flyin'Dutch' wrote:Reassuring to learn that Landrover still build cr@p cars.

In the interest of balance, I can confirm that my 2015 Range Rover Sport has been faultless (so far).

Re: So, I just bought another one (LEAF)

PostPosted:Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:32 pm
by malcolmfrost
An interesting chat with Graeme Cooper form National Grid done by Chris Harris of Top Gear. https://www.topgear.com/videos/chris-harris/there-enough-juice-harris-talks-evs-national-grids-graeme-cooper

Re: So, I just bought another one (LEAF)

PostPosted:Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:20 pm
by Trent772

Re: So, I just bought another one (LEAF)

PostPosted:Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:40 am
by Charliesixtysix
We are thinking of replacing one of our older diesel vehicles soon and are considering looking at a small electric car for the job.

We would keep the bigger IC vehicle for longer journeys and towing duties so the replacement (electric?) vehicle would only be used for local journeys, usually with two people (plus shopping) but occasionally four and almost always sub 30 miles base to base. Annual mileage sub 5000pa.

Budget <£10k, so I know whatever falls in that price bracket will not be in the first flush of youth (or is it even sensible to consider electric vehicle of the age that budget would acquire?) . My gut feeling is that I would prefer to own outright rather than lease the powerpack but freely admit to having zero experience and stand to be educated on such matters.

I know this started as a Nissan Leaf ownership topic and admit to not having read ( even close to ) all 120 odd pages of the thread. We are thinking Leaf or Zoe might it the bill and hopefully the collective might not mind me asking for a condensed summary of options, ideas and/or gotchas to consider ?

Re: So, I just bought another one (LEAF)

PostPosted:Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:22 am
by stevelup
Without wanting to diminish whatever answers you get here, I'd recommend posting the same question over on speakev.com as well.

There are hundreds of people on there with first hand practical experience of that subject rather than the half a dozen you'll get here!

Re: So, I just bought another one (LEAF)

PostPosted:Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:05 am
by Flying_john
Charliesixtysix wrote:We are thinking of replacing one of our older diesel vehicles soon and are considering looking at a small electric car for the job.

Budget <£10k, so I know whatever falls in that price bracket will not be in the first flush of youth (or is it even sensible to consider electric vehicle of the age that budget would acquire?) . My gut feeling is that I would prefer to own outright rather than lease the powerpack but freely admit to having zero experience and stand to be educated on such matters.

I know this started as a Nissan Leaf ownership topic and admit to not having read ( even close to ) all 120 odd pages of the thread. We are thinking Leaf or Zoe might it the bill and hopefully the collective might not mind me asking for a condensed summary of options, ideas and/or gotchas to consider ?


When I started this thread (Eons ago) I was just embarking on my 5th EV. I'm now on my 6th and that last three have been Leafs (leaves ?). My penultimate one I sold in March in anticipation of getting my new one, but C19 got in the way and I was Leafless for 7 months as the factory had shut, very inconsiderate :roll:

The one I sold was 4 years old and had less than 20k miles and battery health was all good. I achieved £8500 and the chap that bought it was very happy at the price, it was owned outright no battery leasing.

So for your <£10k, you should be able to buy an EV , might not be a Leaf, but Nissan have certainly got well over 10 yrs experience in the design, manufacture and support of this technology and the price point is good.

My latest one is a larger battery than my previous one (A Tekna) with lots of bells and whistles and after Guv'mint grant was a shade under £25k on the road.

Re: So, I just bought another one (LEAF)

PostPosted:Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:09 pm
by CloudHound
Should get a couple of Renault Twizys for that money :lol:

Re: So, I just bought another one (LEAF)

PostPosted:Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:50 pm
by Charliesixtysix
I’ll let you run that idea past Liz.... :eye:

Re: So, I just bought another one (LEAF)

PostPosted:Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:44 pm
by riverrock
As the resident Zoe owner @Charliesixtysix - you'd be looking for "i" models (which means battery owned) but unfortunately they are often incorrectly advertised (so battery lease versions are advertised incorrectly as "i" models).
You are looking at £9k or so for a 2015 model with 30K miles (eg https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-detail ... 0155036373 ).
Look for an extended warranty (as electric bits are v. expensive) and remember you'll need to pay £500 or so to get a charging point installed. Watch for the 5th year service- not much change from £900 at some dealers (coolant and brake fluid is apparently more than £350 each at dealer prices :shock: )
They have a 65mile or so range.

Lots of much cheaper battery lease models - not many battery owned from that time. You can buy out the battery from Renault which is approx the difference in cost.