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#1782636
skydriller wrote:
malcolmfrost wrote:speech recognition almost works, backgammon, chess and loads more I can’t remember!


Playing games whilst driving, even if using speech recognition doesnt sound that safe... :wink:

It doesn't let you do anything in the "entertainment pack" whilst driving!
From that description above its sounding like a phone that just happens to have wheels and you can drive about... :wink:

....and is very good at the driving around bit!
Frankly a lot of the extras I haven't even used, Spotify is good, but Netflix/chess etc. is only useful if you're spending a lot of time on the road and therefore spending a lot of time at Superchargers.
I have to say I will never go back to ICE, it's exceptionally cheap to own, VED is zero (at the moment), my insurance renewal has gone down to £317 (for a car that does 0-60 in 5.5 secs) I haven't yet paid for any charging as I have solar at home. I'm saving about £1000/year on petrol. It also doesn't need an annual service.
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#1782637
skydriller wrote:From that description above its sounding like a phone that just happens to have wheels and you can drive about... :wink:


.. rather as Heathrow is a shopping mall with a runway attached ? :)
#1785301
stevelup wrote:I really do with they would stop calling their semi-autonomous tech 'Full Self Driving' though.


So do I.

In its current form it serves to demonstrate how much work there is to do and, especially in the UK, how much Government and regulatory support will be needed.

It’s not enough to try and design a car to emulate a human. The UK roads are no longer designed with humans in mind. There will need to be a lot of simplification and standardisation as well as, potentially, requiring cars and roads to all communicate with each other.
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TheKentishFledgling wrote:We've got a trip to Edinburgh planned in August: the train appeals even less than normal at the moment, so we'll be driving from Kent and back. I've been keen to try an EV on a longish journey for a while, and this seems like a good opportunity.

The usual rental companies do look to have them, but there also seem to be quite a few outfits specialising in EVs. Does anyone have any experience with week long Tesla rentals?


Don’t do it. A test drive is expensive enough. Mine cost me over £40k. You are better off not knowing IMHO.
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malcolmfrost wrote:It doesn't let you do anything in the "entertainment pack" whilst driving!.


It does let you use the web browser though. I’m not totally comfortable with that. Would prefer a more locked down and simplified UI when driving along the lines of the Apple or Google options.

I find it difficult to reconcile the simplicity of the lack of buttons and single screen with the amount of clutter the screen can show.

As with much else in the Tesla design the core assumption seems to be that the car will be doing the driving and the screen will be available for entertainment - as it will be at level 3 and above under defined conditions.

Did you see the screenshots elsewhere of v3 charging speed? Trying to remember where I saw it, but somebody took a picture of their dash in the UK with close to 1,000mph charge speed. Will be looking to take a similar pic myself ASAP.

Completely agree re ICE.

On the annual service, do check your mileage after winter. There’s a recommendation to have your brakes cleaned after winter at a certain mileage if you live in an area that salts the roads. Makes sense as the brakes don’t get used that much.
#1785331
You gave a good rationale for this here some time back. Nothing I’ve learnt since contradicts.

As an owner I think Tesla have outgrown it as a goal and don’t need it to sell cars. Suspect there’s huge future value to Tesla in the learning though.
#1785343
I think it’s great what Tesla have done. I’m sure we wouldn’t be where we are now without them shaking the industry up. They are pioneers and there is much to celebrate. I’m not personally a fan of the actual vehicles but I won’t slag them off when a lot of this comes down to personal opinion.

I just think it’s totally irresponsible perpetuating the fantasy of fully autonomous vehicles freely mingling with other non autonomous cars / pedestrians / animals let alone roadworks etc.
#1785348
Leodisflyer wrote:
malcolmfrost wrote:It doesn't let you do anything in the "entertainment pack" whilst driving!.


It does let you use the web browser though. I’m not totally comfortable with that.


Not comfortable? I think its down right dangerous...!!
#1785375
I didn’t know you could either, just never had the need, though I’ve discovered I can get OS maps on it with my subscription!
Up in Northumberland for a week, Supercharging each way from Guildford £17, all charging free up here courtesy of Northumberland Council, and rapid too.
I used the Autopilot only on reasonably empty motorways and dual carriageways but it does take a lot of strain off the boring stuff. It’s exceptional in heavy traffic jams as it will just creep forward and keep in the lane without any input. The thought of using it in a town fills me with dread currently.
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