StratoTramp wrote:Cases don't matter in the same way they used to
Agree.
StratoTramp wrote:and are largely academic
Disagree.
StratoTramp wrote:They should only track hospitalisations - at least front and centre now most of the country is vacinated.
They are tracking them, and deaths. The correlation between cases and hospitalisations and deaths is still there, just at a much lower figure now.
StratoTramp wrote:I thought many of those in hospital now 60-70% were unvaccinated.
Probably higher but they're still taking up beds and they're still dying.
StratoTramp wrote:50-200 deaths a day is miles less than any other cause of death
In the vaccinated, yes, it's currently running at 0.8% of all deaths. In the unvaccinated though it's 37.4% of all deaths.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19latestinsights/vaccinesStratoTramp wrote:Using full numbers as there was a survey last year in July that stated the british public thought the death toll of covid was 6-7%. That would have been 4.5 million bodies.
I hadn't seen that. Maybe the question asked was for the over 60s.
StratoTramp wrote:People thought it was 100 times worse than it was at the time.
No, it was around 1.6-1.8% so if what you say is true above, they thought about 4 times worse, not 100.
If it hadn't been for the lockdowns, the body count would have been close to a million.
StratoTramp wrote:Even if a mask reduces transmission by 10% it depends on 10% of what.
Depends on what the 10% is. The "worst case" studies suggest 50% effective, but that's 50% of scenarios which would benefit - it may well be 10% of *all* transmissions including schools, within families, etc. On 10% of what? Well, of the R number.
StratoTramp wrote:They didn't because they predicted panic buying. But that's only because they overplayed the severity at the start with all the images from Italy and china.
They didn't overplay it.
If anything they underplayed it, saying how those who died had other underlying heath issues, in a bid to stop any panic within the population. There are still people, even on this thread, who believe that anyone who died was at death's door anyway, which is clearly not the case.
StratoTramp wrote:Two doses of Pfizer was 85% protection or something. What is the point in reducing 15% by a further 10% (1.5%)
Because the numbers are huge. 15% of the whole vaccinated population equates to a lot of people.
Flyin'Dutch' wrote:There are some ... who are able to tune in to different suppliers of information outside of the UK HMG Pressbriefings and or the Beeb...
Yes, like on-line forums and YouTube.
Anyway, new case figures are coming down slightly this week, as many predicted they would in half term.