Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:19 am
#1897571
I’m looking for a bit of clarification on how ‘accurate’ the FRTOL test is likely to be as I’m seeing a few differences between what I see/hear in practice vs CAP413.
For example, getting ready for departure/takeoff clearance. In practice, I’ve been using and hearing others as follows after declaring ready for departure…
Tower “G-MT, runway 27, wind xxx, cleared for takeoff”
Readback I have been using and hearing “cleared for takeoff, G-MT”
but CAP413 states readback… “runway 27, cleared for takeoff, G-MT”. I do understand having just taken comms that a runway identification should be a compulsory readback and it has been in the lead up to the takeoff clearance but it seems to be missed by me and others.
I suspect that it should be as per CAP413 but actual practice just gets a bit watered down but just want to check.
Similarly, if reporting a position on the test and you say “G-MT, altitude 2000, Cessna 152….” instead of “G-MT, Cessna 152, altitude 2000…”, does a puppy die and you fail?
For example, getting ready for departure/takeoff clearance. In practice, I’ve been using and hearing others as follows after declaring ready for departure…
Tower “G-MT, runway 27, wind xxx, cleared for takeoff”
Readback I have been using and hearing “cleared for takeoff, G-MT”
but CAP413 states readback… “runway 27, cleared for takeoff, G-MT”. I do understand having just taken comms that a runway identification should be a compulsory readback and it has been in the lead up to the takeoff clearance but it seems to be missed by me and others.
I suspect that it should be as per CAP413 but actual practice just gets a bit watered down but just want to check.
Similarly, if reporting a position on the test and you say “G-MT, altitude 2000, Cessna 152….” instead of “G-MT, Cessna 152, altitude 2000…”, does a puppy die and you fail?
PPL(A) gained 30/8/22, started Aug 21, C-152, EGBJ