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I would agree that the written word is no use trying to assess someone’s character.
Reading comments such as, “perhaps he didn’t like your attitude” or “instructors who pass are great, those that fail are useless”. These remarks do not describe me or my way of thinking, but seem to imply that I may have a bad attitude or think that I know better. This sort of thing will bother me when I know it to be incorrect. So, also being human, I imagine the writer having that opinion of me and feel, “that’s not me at all”, followed by the defensive. How else can I write it down?
By TopCat
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Crash one wrote:I would agree that the written word is no use trying to assess someone’s character.

Well that's not quite what I said, but that aside...

I could perhaps have phrased
I wrote:perhaps he didn’t like your attitude

a little differently. Maybe you came over to him as defensive and argumentative, maybe you didn't. Maybe he was oversensitive. Maybe he didn't quite mean it the way he said it :)

Who knows, certainly not me. But we can all give the wrong impression sometimes.

Anecdote alert... :shock:

I was once hauled in to see the then-CFI at Goodwood where I was based back in the 90s. He sat me down and said that some people didn't like me because I was too professional. Now I certainly did try to do everything as professionally as possible when it came to flying, but as a criticism this sounded a bit odd, and I tried to get him to be more specific, or say who had commented thus, but he wasn't to be drawn. He wouldn't elaborate, or explain what he meant.

I left his office, having presumably "been told", but I had no idea what I'd been told. I didn't really mix with anyone in the club in those days, nor the instructors, as I learned with a freelance guy there back then (still a good friend to this day), and I pretty much just went there to fly, not to socialise.

I came to the conclusion I'd rubbed someone up the wrong way, unknowingly - someone somewhere hadn't liked my attitude, but it was the oddest interview I'd ever been to.

This is what I meant - maybe your instructor didn't like what he saw of your attitude, even though you may not have meant to appear the way you did. IDK, I'm just speculating. I expect a lot of people here think I'm rather arsey and a bit OCD, but I'm not really, I'm mostly a softy. I take full responsibility for how I come over, except when people react to what they imagine I'm thinking, rather than what I actually write, which does **** me off.

But for an instructor to say that to an experienced pilot is not normal.

This is why I thought @Flyin'Dutch''s comment, while a little harsher than mine perhaps, did have some merit. What he actually said, obviously ironically, was

Flyin'Dutch' wrote:But we know that examiners that pass are great, those who find fault are rubbish...


I took this to mean that we all prefer being told how wonderful we are, to being told we're cr4p. However the latter is usually a damn sight more useful.
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Crash one wrote:For once Misc, thank you...

I am delighted you approve of my post, C1. :thumright: :D

I do have to say though that I have lost count of the number of times I have found myself scratching my head wondering how you have interpreted my posts as you have. Whether it's how you read them, or how I wrote them I don't know.
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Miscellaneous wrote:
Crash one wrote:For once Misc, thank you...

I am delighted you approve of my post, C1. :thumright: :D

I do have to say though that I have lost count of the number of times I have found myself scratching my head wondering how you have interpreted my posts as you have. Whether it's how you read them, or how I wrote them I don't know.


What came across with your posts ref RPS was that I had an opinion with a simple reason for that opinion which I pointed out, (RPS gives me a small safety margin of height above QNH), that was all.
You kept insisting that I somehow must justify my reason, citing, it’s not accurate, it’s only a forecast, it may be incorrect etc etc.
I know it’s not accurate, I know it may be incorrect, yes it’s only a forecast. That does not mean that I am stupid to use it, which is what you called me. Maybe it was my reading/interpretation but I felt pushed into a corner with what came over as a demand that I explain in minute detail my reasoning.
I explained that instructors had pointed out all the differences in alt settings, I explained that I understood them and what they were for, all to no avail. I was still stupid.
And before anyone else wants to comment. I’m talking about over Scotland, covered in class G, no bottlenecks of CAS, pootling about between 2 and 5thousand feet, bothering no one.