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Flying in Italy

PostPosted:Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:10 am
by pontrumlee
Does anybody have an "Aide Memoire" for Italian Radio Calls - Arrival and Departure for use at small airfields as I am going to a Fly Party in Italy soon and a Translation sheet would be very useful .

Thanks

Re: Flying in Italy

PostPosted:Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:21 pm
by Grumpy One
Here's what I've got (Buit never used as even the small strips I visited spoke 'useful' English.

PLEASE bear in mind that this was written out for me 18 years ago by a Belgian florist !!
Also - the spellings (mine and the florist's) can't be guaranteed :clown: )
0 - Zero
1 - Uno
2 - Due
3 - Tre
4 - Quatro
5 - Cinque
6 - Sei
7 - Sette
8 - Otto
9 - Nove
100- Cento
1000- Mille
Decimal - Decimale

And there's more:_
I don't understand Italian - Non capisco l'Italiano
Say Again - Per favour ripetero
Speak Slowly - Lentamente

Traffic Area - Area di Traffico
Holding Point - Punto attesa
Line Up - Alliniamento
Initial Climb - Salita inniziale
Cross Wind - Contro base
Down Wind - Sotto vento
End of down wind - Fine del sottovento
Base leg entry - Base
Turning onto Final - Virata finale
Long final - Lungo finale
Final - Finale
Runway vacated - Pista libera

Loads more to go..../ Bored yet?
On the Ground
Request Taxi - Richiede il rullaggio
Request cross runway - Richiede l'attraversamento
Hold position - Mantenete la posizione
Holding position - Mantiene la posizione
Can you expedite taxi - Per favour accelerate il rulaggio
Give way to the... - Date la precedenze a …
Ready for take off - Pronto al decollo
Line up - Aluneamento
Lining up - Si allinea
Cleared to take off - Autorizzato al decollo
Taking off - Decolla

In Flight
Coming from (airport) - Proveniente da (Airport)
Inbound to you for landing - Stestinamento al vostro campo diretto
Estimate in …. minutes - L'atteraggio che stima tra …. minuti
Join downwind runway.... - Riporte in sottovento pista ….
Make a short approach - (Autorizzato) avinciamento diretto
Extend downwind - Allungate il sottovento
Report final - Riporte in finale
Cleared to land - Atorizzato all'atterraggio
I'm landing - atterraggio
Report runway vacated - riportare pista libera
Runway vacated - Pista libera
Request touch and go - Richesta di tocca e reparti

Phew!

Re: Flying in Italy

PostPosted:Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:23 pm
by Dave W
Needs African Eagle to comment, I guess. :D

Re: Flying in Italy

PostPosted:Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:25 pm
by Rob P
He'll be too busy flying.

I have flown to Italy GA four times and never had to use anything other than English.

Rob P

Re: Flying in Italy

PostPosted:Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:27 pm
by Grumpy One
Dave W wrote:Needs African Eagle to comment, I guess. :D

Obligado - ando correcto meo thinko :thumleft:

Re: Flying in Italy

PostPosted:Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:50 pm
by Iceman
Like Rob, I have flown in Italy on 4 or 5 occasions and have never even had to think about speaking Italian (which I can't). If in doubt, just speak more loudly and wave your hands around a bit.

Iceman 8)

Re: Flying in Italy

PostPosted:Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:36 pm
by Pete L
The only difference I would note is that Italian ATC likes you to be very clear on your intentions, preferably giving an ICAO or airport reporting point.

Once they know what's going on, they seem to be very accommodating.

Re: Flying in Italy

PostPosted:Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:44 am
by Mike Charlie
I have the June Malta air rally 50th anniversary in my sights for 2019. I asked the question here before for advice regarding routing south through Italy. Any further tips please for friendly GA fields and recommendations.

Recent knowledge of airfields with AVGAS and accommodation on site or close by would be great. Duration between fuel stops ideally three hours or less. In the meantime I shall print Grumpy ones translations in anticipation....!

Re: Flying in Italy

PostPosted:Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:53 am
by GolfHotel
@Mike Charlie

We were there in September. Avgas was in short supply. Everywhere seemed, closed, out of gas, or simply not talking to us. We ended up a Genoa for a splash and dash. 80 euro landing hurt a bit. But it was an interesting place to visit.

Massa were very helpful in May. But in an SR20 2 up with luggage and a shortish grass/sand runway with trees at either end I put in the minimum possible.

Re: Flying in Italy

PostPosted:Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:44 am
by AfricanEagle
@ pontrumlee
You don't really need Italian on the radio unless you are landing at the minor aviosuperfici (but it that case just look out and land). To which Fly Party are you going to?


Grumpy One has however provided an excellent guide :thumright:

English will be fine. Consider that ATC like to hear the following (otherwise he'll ask for it):

G-XXXX
C172
VFR
with / without Flight Plan
Departed xxxx
Destination xxxx estimated at xxxx
Currently over xxxx at xxxxft
Inbound xxxx estimated at xxxx

The last two lines will always be requested and they normally expect the next reporting point to be one of the VFR points.

@ Mike Charlie,
Pavullo, Terni, Salerno, Scalea, Reggio Calabria all have fuel (normally). I'll dig out the ICAO codes.

Re: Flying in Italy

PostPosted:Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:21 pm
by matthew_w100
Could we make these "Flying in..." threads sticky? They are such a useful resource.

Perhaps they could even be a basis for a series of articles in our favourite magazine. I'd love to see "Flying in..." Germany, Switzerland, and Benelux. Something which adds to the AIPs by highlighting the idiosyncrasies particularly away from the mainstream. And tells you about fuel!

France gets a disproportionate amount of coverage (-: