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- Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:01 pm
#656342
Playing by numbers? Well, I guess it looks like that and it is literally but tablature is no different to written music. It's simpler because it only identifies the notes rather than the timing but it's the same process.
Pretty much all classical musicians use written music and since they rarely can improvise then I guess we have to suggest that classical musicians can only play by numbers!
edited: to add that he really should learn the notes on the fretboard and the fundamentals of music theory or he will never play well or with others or transpose keys but tabs do help a beginner and even an experienced player who is trying to work out a solo or bass line as music transcriptions are rarely found for these.
Pretty much all classical musicians use written music and since they rarely can improvise then I guess we have to suggest that classical musicians can only play by numbers!
edited: to add that he really should learn the notes on the fretboard and the fundamentals of music theory or he will never play well or with others or transpose keys but tabs do help a beginner and even an experienced player who is trying to work out a solo or bass line as music transcriptions are rarely found for these.
- Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:25 pm
#656401
Sorry if that sounded more critcal than I meant - I have a degree of admiration for the wealth of material here that can be used as a starting point.
I don't believe that everyone who appears on TOTP (or whatever the modern equivalent is) should have gone to the RCM.
FG
I don't believe that everyone who appears on TOTP (or whatever the modern equivalent is) should have gone to the RCM.
FG
- Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:04 pm
#656420
[quote='Morley'] [img]http://www.gear4music.com/media/8962/600/preview.jpg[/img]
[url=http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Ibanez-SR300-Bass-Guitar-Candy-Apple/8RK]This one[/url] is a much better guitar.[/quote]
Hope you are right, it arrives tomorrow. :)
But in oh so cool Iron Pewter (flat black to us mortals)
[img]http://www.woodbrass.com/images/woodbrass/2512025141028.JPG[/img]
[url=http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Ibanez-SR300-Bass-Guitar-Candy-Apple/8RK]This one[/url] is a much better guitar.[/quote]
Hope you are right, it arrives tomorrow. :)
But in oh so cool Iron Pewter (flat black to us mortals)
[img]http://www.woodbrass.com/images/woodbrass/2512025141028.JPG[/img]
Last edited by eltonioni on Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:12 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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- Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:06 pm
#656422
[quote='Foie Gras']
[quote]Tuning: Standard
0:14 (Verse 1)
G|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
D|------------------------------------------------6-6-6-63-3-33-3------------|
A|-4-4-4-46-6-66-6-----------------4-4-4-46-6-66-6---------------------------|
E|-----------------4-4-4-41-1-11-1-------------------------------------------|[/quote]
The numbers refer to which fret you use and the G,D,A,E are the strings.
Painting by Numbers eh?
FG[/quote]
I am learning how to play tenor banjo and that is how I am learning but its getting to the stage noe where I need to learn music too
[quote]Tuning: Standard
0:14 (Verse 1)
G|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
D|------------------------------------------------6-6-6-63-3-33-3------------|
A|-4-4-4-46-6-66-6-----------------4-4-4-46-6-66-6---------------------------|
E|-----------------4-4-4-41-1-11-1-------------------------------------------|[/quote]
The numbers refer to which fret you use and the G,D,A,E are the strings.
Painting by Numbers eh?
FG[/quote]
I am learning how to play tenor banjo and that is how I am learning but its getting to the stage noe where I need to learn music too
I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman, "Where's the self-help section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.
- Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:38 pm
#656443
[quote='Pete S']Fascinating thread for me, a non-musician.
When do bass players choose a 5- or 6- string bass?
Peter[/quote]
To answer your question, Pete:
It makes available a wider range of notes and It allows a more efficient fingering pattern. A five string bass has the bottom string tuned to B so when playing a standard pattern the root note (the main note of the key) and therefore the pattern is on the same fret or set of frets up the fingerboard so the resultant efficient use of the fingerboard makes for a smoother playing style.
The lower and higher notes available are often used in progressive jazz for instance. A great exponent of this is Stanley Clarke.
When do bass players choose a 5- or 6- string bass?
Peter[/quote]
To answer your question, Pete:
It makes available a wider range of notes and It allows a more efficient fingering pattern. A five string bass has the bottom string tuned to B so when playing a standard pattern the root note (the main note of the key) and therefore the pattern is on the same fret or set of frets up the fingerboard so the resultant efficient use of the fingerboard makes for a smoother playing style.
The lower and higher notes available are often used in progressive jazz for instance. A great exponent of this is Stanley Clarke.
- Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:57 pm
#656453
Stanley Clarkes best stuff was done on a 4 string. My answer to the question would be "when they want to think they look flash"
The thing about a 5 or 6 string bass is that the bottom string, B, is too low to be audible unless it is on its own (its about 30hz so anything you do hear will be a harmonic). The top string, c is just an octave below middle c putting the instrument way above the bass range and potentially conflicting with other instruments.
Its a bit like a drummer with loads of kit. Stuart Copeland is one of the best drummers ever and he usually has a basic kit. You dont need it but some geniuses, like Stanley Clarke, will make use of it as they understand when to leave stuff out.
The thing about a 5 or 6 string bass is that the bottom string, B, is too low to be audible unless it is on its own (its about 30hz so anything you do hear will be a harmonic). The top string, c is just an octave below middle c putting the instrument way above the bass range and potentially conflicting with other instruments.
Its a bit like a drummer with loads of kit. Stuart Copeland is one of the best drummers ever and he usually has a basic kit. You dont need it but some geniuses, like Stanley Clarke, will make use of it as they understand when to leave stuff out.
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- Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:21 pm
#664818
Exactly, Stuart C can play a straight 4 rhythm on a kick snare and hihat and it is unmistakably him. That takes talent.
I also agree, very little point in more than 4 strings on a bass.
In fact, guitars really only got 6 when "they" decided they would be a solo instrument.
Its a bit like a drummer with loads of kit. Stuart Copeland is one of the best drummers ever and he usually has a basic kit. You dont need it but some geniuses, like Stanley Clarke, will make use of it as they understand when to leave stuff out.
Exactly, Stuart C can play a straight 4 rhythm on a kick snare and hihat and it is unmistakably him. That takes talent.
I also agree, very little point in more than 4 strings on a bass.
In fact, guitars really only got 6 when "they" decided they would be a solo instrument.