Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:28 pm
#790737
If you have ever bust airspace, at the time :-
1. Were you a student or qualified?
Qualified
2. Were you current or rusty?
Current
3. Was it in your own/group aircraft or rented/school?
School
4. Were you familiar with the aircraft?
Yes
5. Were you using a nav aid?
Yes
6. If so which navaid (e.g. VOR, NDB, GPS)?
Detling VOR/DME
7. Were you aware of the airspace you bust?
Yes
8. Was it in a complex airspace area?
Yes
9. How close to your home airport was the airspace?
25NM
10. Only if you wish, say which airspace you bust.
London TMA
11. Why do you think it happened?
I was heading west tracking towards DET (about 10 miles from DET) in fair (but legal) vis when I heard another a/c call on frequency approaching DET from the west tracking east on a reciprocal heading at the same altitude at DET. So I elected to climb 500ft, but inadvertently kept on climbing entering the bottom of London TMA by about 200ft. I realised immediately and descended below TMA so I was in controlled airspace for about 3 minutes.
My next waypoint was Southend, and like a prat I decided to 'fess up to Southend even though I was OCAS by then.
The nice folk at Southend decided to shop me to the CAA: There then followed a protracted correspondence with the CAA and I got my knuckles rapped: As a 3 months post qualified PPL I had a 'record' and a 'you won't be so lucky next time' on my file.
12. Any other comment that might help the rest of us.
I have made the obvious comment elsewhere in the past and got sh@t upon so I won't repeat it here......
Peter
1. Were you a student or qualified?
Qualified
2. Were you current or rusty?
Current
3. Was it in your own/group aircraft or rented/school?
School
4. Were you familiar with the aircraft?
Yes
5. Were you using a nav aid?
Yes
6. If so which navaid (e.g. VOR, NDB, GPS)?
Detling VOR/DME
7. Were you aware of the airspace you bust?
Yes
8. Was it in a complex airspace area?
Yes
9. How close to your home airport was the airspace?
25NM
10. Only if you wish, say which airspace you bust.
London TMA
11. Why do you think it happened?
I was heading west tracking towards DET (about 10 miles from DET) in fair (but legal) vis when I heard another a/c call on frequency approaching DET from the west tracking east on a reciprocal heading at the same altitude at DET. So I elected to climb 500ft, but inadvertently kept on climbing entering the bottom of London TMA by about 200ft. I realised immediately and descended below TMA so I was in controlled airspace for about 3 minutes.
My next waypoint was Southend, and like a prat I decided to 'fess up to Southend even though I was OCAS by then.
The nice folk at Southend decided to shop me to the CAA: There then followed a protracted correspondence with the CAA and I got my knuckles rapped: As a 3 months post qualified PPL I had a 'record' and a 'you won't be so lucky next time' on my file.
12. Any other comment that might help the rest of us.
I have made the obvious comment elsewhere in the past and got sh@t upon so I won't repeat it here......
Peter
Pete S as was
‘Work in progress’.
‘Work in progress’.