[AlanM]

Perhaps getting the Airporr Director, Rob Abbott (former ATCO) on to the livestream may be good value.

As you say, big bit of kit and reinvigorating controllers to work radar ain’t a cheap option.

Standby for more autonomous larger aircraft on test I reckon.

[chevvron]

As you say, big bit of kit and reinvigorating controllers to work radar ain’t a cheap option.

A very expensive way of doing things but then we all know universities are renowned for spending money. Will they get government grants I wonder?

[lobstaboy]

A very expensive way of doing things but then we all know universities are renowned for spending money. Will they get government grants I wonder?

Well, to be fair, universities have very little of their own money to spend. Big purchases are normally paid for by someone else for them, and they have to justify it to those customers. They won't have just bought this out of their discretionary capital budget. It must be for either government or industry funded projects (or a combination of those two). I'm surprised it's not public knowledge- maybe it is, just not obvious. As I said before this isn't simply to provide an ATC service.

[CloudHound]

Roger that.

So as this new facility comes on line UK will move to the ICAO FIS model.

Any air traffickers formed a view how radar vectors in Class G airspace will work when not all targets are cooperating?

[johnm]

The link posted by @AlanM shows the funding coming from UKRI

[NorthSouth]

Roger that.

So as this new facility comes on line UK will move to the ICAO FIS model.

Any air traffickers formed a view how radar vectors in Class G airspace will work when not all targets are cooperating?

Errm, same as they do now - with primary surveillance radar???

[Talkdownman]

Any air traffickers formed a view how radar vectors in Class G airspace will work when not all targets are cooperating?

Vectoring in Class G has been working for decades. It's not difficult, but neither is it ideal. One just has to be on one's toes, and with continuous escape options.

[xtophe]

not all targets are cooperating?

No mention of merging ADS-B data with the radar. That would have increase the number of cooperating targets.

[AshleyFlynn23]

Perhaps getting the Airporr Director, Rob Abbott (former ATCO) on to the livestream may be good value.

As you say, big bit of kit and reinvigorating controllers to work radar ain’t a cheap option.

Standby for more autonomous larger aircraft on test I reckon.

That sounds like a nice idea to get the airport director on the livestream. It would be interesting to hear about what direction the airport is going to go when they do have a radar service to offer. It would also be interesting to hear what the rest of the plans are on the future air park/Marshall development too.

From what I read elsewhere there seems to be a bit of uncertainty as to whether L3 will be providing pilot training for much longer too.

[matspart3]

The remote tower set up (which is very impressive) was also a ‘proof of concept’ idea, which ATC have subsequently benefitted from.

Interestingly, they announced they have bought Tower & Radar simulators yesterday, which are used to train controllers… https://www.linkedin.com/posts/micro-na ... QpafeW5ezM

[johnm]

Remote tower opens the possibility of a critical mass of resources to help with controller resource and workload. The risk as always is that idiot bean counters see it as just another cost reduction opportunity and we’re back to penny wise pound foolish again

[chevvron]

Any air traffickers formed a view how radar vectors in Class G airspace will work when not all targets are cooperating?

I did it for 34 years. In fact make that 35 because I did a stint on the NJRSA before I was posted to Farnborough.

[matspart3]

Roger that.

So as this new facility comes on line UK will move to the ICAO FIS model.

Any air traffickers formed a view how radar vectors in Class G airspace will work when not all targets are cooperating?

Same way as it’s worked for the last 30 odd years that I’ve been doing it….

[Genghis the Engineer]

You'd be right about research, although I don't *think* it's mainly drone related. At any time Cranfield University is managing £100m+ in research funding . A substantial amount of that will be in aerospace. A glance at the news section of the University website will show many big ticket projects, and for every one you can read about there will be at least one more who's funders didn't want publicity.

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[chevvron]

It would be interesting to hear about what direction the airport is going to go when they do have a radar service to offer.

Don't expect anything more than a weekday only LARS 8am to 6.30pm.