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#2041224
I never ever came across a problem with the wording “lower the nose” or even “raise the nose”.

It depends upon the language you use from the start.

An instructor is there to ensure clarity.
Yes, some on here can bring up the rare response, the rare misunderstanding, split hairs if you like.
But I’ve being doing the job for a long time.
ESL means spelling it out slow and clear to ensure understanding.
Nearly all of my students have been intelligent, there have been only a few idiots.

One common wording I avoid is “kick the rudder”, I prefer “apply rudder”.
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#2041229
I have used the word “push” when teaching aerobatics.
By then the person has already done the PPL training and has a better understanding of instruction.

So to enter a loop we might start by lowering the nose...

Losing it inverted: “Push the nose up, and roll wings level”.

Hopefully your PPL student will not need to recover from the inverted!
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#2041264
MichaelP wrote:I never ever came across a problem with the wording “lower the nose” or even “raise the nose”.

It depends upon the language you use from the start.

An instructor is there to ensure clarity.
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Acording to the BMAA instructor guide., and my instructor training, the correct words to use for stall recovery for a three axis aeroplane are
"move the stick forward"
#2041271
MichaelP wrote:Losing it inverted: “Push the nose up, and roll wings level”

Before any looping manoeuvre I prebrief myself on the actions for an erect and an inverted spin. I only owned the Yak briefly before it was written off (not by me) so never had the chance to practice this. The RV I have owned for much longer and flown more loops in. I have fallen out of the top of three or four loops. It's never entered a spin, I have always recovered very easily, but if you asked me to tell you how, I can't, I wouldn't have clue what I did, but it works every time.

Rob P V2.0
#2041285
With the nose going down I grabbed the stick, pushed it forward to raise the nose, and rolled level again.
This was in a Chipmunk.
The bloke up front got the message: “Never never never pull through from the inverted”.

We then slow rolled multiple times on the way to Chilliwack until he got it right.
On the way back I had the front seat and practiced the sequence I used to do in G BARS.

Of course we can, Split S, but not without slowing down inverted towards the point of inverted stall in a Chipmunk, then a smart pull. It’s too easy to go through Vne and/or exceed the g limit.