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#1853898
russp wrote:
Peter Gristwood wrote:...and why not Part 21 types?

Because they are covered by EASA rules and not National rules.


My understanding was that EASA had a favourable view on things like the UK's PMD, and at one point may have considered something similar.

There was however considerable pushback from some of the NAAs (I'd bet that Germany was one of them), so last I heard it was not an active project,

Ian
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G-BLEW wrote:
russp wrote:
Peter Gristwood wrote:...and why not Part 21 types?

Because they are covered by EASA rules and not National rules.


My understanding was that EASA had a favourable view on things like the UK's PMD, and at one point may have considered something similar.

There was however considerable pushback from some of the NAAs (I'd bet that Germany was one of them), so last I heard it was not an active project,

Ian


That was my understanding too. But very odd that Part 21 types, maintained to a disproportionately higher and more costly standard are excluded, though PtF types aren't.

Perhaps I should write to Sophie and that nice Mr Schapps - it's p*ss*ng down at the moment, and not much on TV
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patowalker wrote:
No use posting a link to the AIP, because it requires user registration.


Thank you. Is there acceptance of a PMD comparable to France's?

Rob P
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Smaragd wrote:
Peter Gristwood wrote:
That was my understanding too. But very odd that Part 21 types, maintained to a disproportionately higher and more costly standard are excluded, though PtF types aren't.


More costly - yes. Disproportionately higher - do you have evidence?


Happy to take back the word 'higher. As we know, it might be better to say 'restrictive' as we aren't permitted the relative freedoms of Permit types
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#1855778
CloudHound wrote:Can you expand a little on what is meant by "Flight Conditions"

Asking for a dumb pal :lol:


Operational conditions or limitations for the aircraft.

VFR or IFR, day or night, flight crew, build standard, loadings/CG, any airspace limitations, other operational limitations (e.g. speeds, altitudes), where the maintenance requirements are defined.

Once Flight Conditions have been approved then a Permit to Fly can be issued.
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#1855788
G-BLEW wrote:My understanding was that EASA had a favourable view on things like the UK's PMD, and at one point may have considered something similar.

There was however considerable pushback from some of the NAAs (I'd bet that Germany was one of them), so last I heard it was not an active project,

Ian


Hope you did not put too much on that bet as you would have lost.
#1855789
Flyin'Dutch' wrote:
G-BLEW wrote:My understanding was that EASA had a favourable view on things like the UK's PMD, and at one point may have considered something similar.

There was however considerable pushback from some of the NAAs (I'd bet that Germany was one of them), so last I heard it was not an active project,

Ian


Hope you did not put too much on that bet as you would have lost.


Wonder who it could have been then?

Ian
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G-BLEW wrote:
Flyin'Dutch' wrote:
G-BLEW wrote:My understanding was that EASA had a favourable view on things like the UK's PMD, and at one point may have considered something similar.

There was however considerable pushback from some of the NAAs (I'd bet that Germany was one of them), so last I heard it was not an active project,

Ian


Hope you did not put too much on that bet as you would have lost.


Wonder who it could have been then?

Ian


There are several conservative NAAs in EASA.
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