[marioair]

It’s not that much different to “QSY”. If I’m going to another frequency of my choice I’ll tell the controller.

So Squawk Enroute is easier to say
But I think it would be good to read back what code you are actually going to set

[Rob P]

You do idly have to wonder if this latest bit of nonsense was driven by an individual basking in his / her success after getting the "Traffic sighted / Traffic not sighted" bollox enshrined in 413?

Rob P

[NDB_hold]

It’s not that much different to “QSY”. If I’m going to another frequency of my choice I’ll tell the controller.

So Squawk Enroute is easier to say
But I think it would be good to read back what code you are actually going to set

Agreed - especially if you are IFR OCAS, which I often am, or planning to be.

[T67M]

Of course, we could always get a squawk code for our flight on the ground before departure and keep that same squawk all the way to our destination. Less airtime. Less chance of a mistake. Less workload for the controller. Less workload for the pilot. I know! We could call it "flight following"....

[riverrock]

Alternatively there could be a joined up system, where your flight ID / registration gets picked up by Mode-S, and a central computer system keeps track of your flight and who you are talking too. No need for Mode-A or "pass your message"...

[chevvron]

Of course, we could always get a squawk code for our flight on the ground before departure and keep that same squawk all the way to our destination. Less airtime. Less chance of a mistake. Less workload for the controller. Less workload for the pilot. I know! We could call it "flight following"....

Not possible for VFR traffic in the UK for various reasons and in any case, the first controller you called would still have to formally identify you and verify your 'C' as is done already with IFR departures from airfields without their own radar eg a Fairoaks departure joining CAS is allocated a code and an 'after departure' frequency prior to takeoff and is transferred to Farnborough just after departure but the Farnborough controller still has to ask for an 'ident' and altitude confirmation.

[foxmoth]

Alternatively there could be a joined up system, where your flight ID / registration gets picked up by Mode-S, and a central computer system keeps track of your flight and who you are talking too. No need for Mode-A or "pass your message"...

Not sure how this does away with “pass you message” if you are not entering CAS you don’t need to do this anyway as most CAS now has a listening squawk and if you do want to enter you will still need to call for a clearance

[chevvron]

It’s not that much different to “QSY”. If I’m going to another frequency of my choice I’ll tell the controller.

Where've you been for the last 20 years?
'QSY' was removed from '413 at least that time ago.

[Iceman]

And I’ve heard at least one Farnborough controller using the QSY term on numerous occasions in recent times (certainly within the last year).

Iceman

[chevvron]

And I’ve heard at least one Farnborough controller using the QSY term on numerous occasions in recent times (certainly within the last year).

Iceman

Not everybody agreed with the CAA's decision.

[TopCat]

And I’ve heard at least one Farnborough controller using the QSY term on numerous occasions in recent times (certainly within the last year).

Indeed. But let's not grass him up, it's so much easier

[JonathanB]

I’m sure we did this debate before. Just reply with the code you’re going to squawk rather than “that word” if it’s too much of a mouthful!

[townleyc]

I don't understand the problem - it is not that difficult to say...

KE

[G-JWTP]

And I’ve heard at least one Farnborough controller using the QSY term on numerous occasions in recent times (certainly within the last year).

Iceman

Not everybody agreed with the CAA's decision.

Very few actually agree with much they come out with.

G-JWTP

[T67M]

Of course, we could always get a squawk code for our flight on the ground before departure and keep that same squawk all the way to our destination. Less airtime. Less chance of a mistake. Less workload for the controller. Less workload for the pilot. I know! We could call it "flight following"....

Not possible for VFR traffic in the UK for various reasons [snip]

I'm sure it could be done if the will was there - after all, it has been done for many years in many other countries. The problem is that the will isn't there.