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By DNewt
#1826766
Hi,

I am thinking about starting work on the CBIR which I believe requires a class 1 audiogram. Where and how is the easiest way to get this done? I have a valid class 2 and am based out of Denham / Wycombe if there are any specific recommendations.

Thanks,
David
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By PeteSpencer
#1826769
All AMEs who can do class 1 medical renewals can do audiograms :Mine alternates biennially with ECG at Medical . ( medical is Class 2 for CBIR but audiogram is same as class1)
Last edited by PeteSpencer on Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:34 am, edited 2 times in total.
By cornhilltc
#1826770
Contact your AME who will advise. I have an IR and Class 2 and usually my AME carries out the audio test during the medical. It is a simple test and you shouldn’t be concerned about it. However, I changed AME last year and he doesn’t have the capability to carry out the audio test and told me to go to Boots and get the test done and bring the results for my next medical.
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By GrahamB
#1826784
BTW, it's not the end of the world if you don't actually pass it.

You can have an annual 'Functional Hearing Test' instead, which is normally a short flight in an aircraft or simulator session, allowing an instructor to assess your actual ability to hear the comms, identify beacons and carry out a conversation.
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By PeteSpencer
#1826794
Top tip: When your AME does yer audiogram ,make sure the cooling fan of his computer/printer is off...... :wink:
By DNewt
#1826811
GrahamB wrote:BTW, it's not the end of the world if you don't actually pass it.

You can have an annual 'Functional Hearing Test' instead, which is normally a short flight in an aircraft or simulator session, allowing an instructor to assess your actual ability to hear the comms, identify beacons and carry out a conversation.



Interesting, I didnt know that. On that basis it seems low risk to crack on with the theory?
By Ibra
#1826824
Do you need this if you have some Garmin gadgets that auto-ident morse codes for conventional NavAids and no-ADF? what if you are 100% flying on GNSS & INS PBN with visual annunciators? or using your IR for IFR in VMC with visual navigation as GPS backup?

Ok, I will get my coat :lol:

Peter Orton does it in a quiet room at Stapleford :thumleft:
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By Dodo
#1826846
If you have an audiogram done by anyone other than your AME make certain they record all the CAA required frequencies.

"When tested on a pure-tone audiometer, initial applicants shall not have a hearing loss of more than 35 dB at any of the frequencies 500, 1 000 or 2 000 Hz, or more than 50 dB at 3 000 Hz, in either ear separately." from https://www.caa.co.uk/Aeromedical-Examiners/Medical-standards/Pilots-(EASA)/Conditions/Otorhinolaryngology/Otorhinolaryngology-guidance-material-GM/

When I was an AME I used to get people bringing in audiograms from high street hearing tests that didn't record 3000Hz.
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By Geldard
#1826868
You can have an annual 'Functional Hearing Test' instead,


Isn’t this for ‘Renewals?
I though the first time you had to get an Audiogram under CAA rules.
Under FAA FARS, like the ECG, neither is required. :D
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By GrahamB
#1826870
Geldard wrote:
You can have an annual 'Functional Hearing Test' instead,


Isn’t this for ‘Renewals?
I though the first time you had to get an Audiogram under CAA rules.
Under FAA FARS, like the ECG, neither is required. :D

My understanding is that for a Class 2 initial, it is acceptable.

One of the AME's on the forum may wish to clarify.
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By Sir Morley Steven
#1827327
I have a class once with FHT. My initial had to have a pass in an audiogram which I scraped through due my years in rock and roll bands.
Now I take along a FHT to my class one renewal.
This year I need an exercise ECG as I am officially now a pensioner.

If you ask me it’s abuse of the elderly!