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Skylarks, the sound of grass strips.

Rob P

oldbiggincfi wrote:Everyone should go to a Council Planning Meeting once in their lifetime .

There are some unbelievably stupid people on the committee .

Been there, done that. Horrified at some of the thought processes and the utter carp then spoken. My faith in the fairness of a planning system was wiped out forever.

oldbiggincfi wrote:

PeteSpencer wrote:I logged in today and read through the submissions.

I really do wish you well but their minds are already made up.

Everyone should go to a Council Planning Meeting once in their lifetime .

There are some unbelievably stupid people on the committee .

Been there, done that:
Took four planning committee meetings 5 years ago (including re-design of one end of the proposed newbuild house) and a site visit of a busload of stuffed shirts before they would pass planning approval for our retirement pad........

Those closer to it might have a different view.... but worth being aware of the three tiers of the process:

1) Planning officers - like many roles, variable quality, some do a good job, others don't. Planning officers either prepare a recommendation for planning committee, or are sometimes delegated to make decisions.

2) Planning committee - elected Councillors - even more variable quality, often don't understand planning policies and regulations, and are more keen to be seen to have made the right decision from an electoral perspective. (It's clear that some don't even read the officer reports)

3) Planning inspectorate - where you appeal to if you disagree with the decision of planning committee. IMHO they tend to understand the rules and play a fairly straight bat.

I’ve never net the OP, and I’m sure he’s a great chap and very charming.

However, if there was ever a text book method of ensuring that your new airfield plan never happens, then this saga is the one to replicate.

TheFarmer wrote:I’ve never net the OP, and I’m sure he’s a great chap and very charming.

However, if there was ever a text book method of ensuring that your new airfield plan never happens, then this saga is the one to replicate.

@TheFarmer
Bit of an echo in here.....

Bit of a thread drift here, excludes The Farmer because he should know most of this, but if you own a small/modest piece of land this is worth a read.

https://www.fieldtofarm.com/

G-JWTP

Appreciate the writer was trying to be helpful but:

‘In my experience aircraft are not a threat to birds, quite the opposite as birds are a threat to aircraft’. I’m now picturing raptors with underwing weaponry.

One summer there was a buzzard regularly perching on the Building Supplies merchant building next door to the JAM car park. From time to time it would make a foray to hover over, and occasionally swoop on, the airside grass between the JAM apron and Heli North West, but seemed to stay North of 09/27. It seemed unfazed by the runway, heli, and taxiway R activity; although when I noticed it set off I used to call Ops to tell them. I suppose it may have deterred other bird activity

South Moor Farm Airstrip.

Update 26/05/21

The Fifth appeal as just been dismissed!

Despite every grass strip in the country having abundant birds and wildlife.

Cannot overcome the bird problem!

Unless I/we manage to change the planning system it could be impossible to ever get planning permission for new sites.

I cannot see a way forward to obtain planning permission.

I am thinking of trying to find out what the penalty will be if I start using the strip again.

Bob.

Do you have the Decision Notice yet?

Be interested in the grounds for dismissal.

I admire your determination and you have my sympathy.
I am now on my third planning application to use an emty adjoining building that is inaccessible to anyone else.....
Planning committees all have personal agendas IMHO.

The planning system is completely broken. Major government policy like HS2 no problem sponsored by major developers no problem

Harmless use of individual land and property...... forget it.

Hi Cloudhound.

Link to appeal decision.

http://planning.northyorkmoors.org.uk/n ... DC_PLANAPP

Worked O.K. when I tried it, let me know if it does not work for you.

Bob.

I think that my response would be to install 100 watt loudspeakers and play symphonies at random intervals

The applicant is effectively being placed in a position where he is expected to prove a negative and that inspector is clearly not very bright and looking for excuses to reject.