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Re: South Moor Farm Airstrip - Not Again!!

PostPosted:Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:16 am
by neilmurg
Supported, it took 240 seconds, well worth it. I commend it to you all.
Plus, another base for when Yorkshire will rise again! Boris's reign of parochial insanity must end!
'Nurse! I need more meds.'

Re: South Moor Farm Airstrip - Not Again!!

PostPosted:Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:15 pm
by r_w_walker
South Moor Farm. Dalby Forest air strip.

The fifth appeal against NYMNPA decision to refuse my planning application for
an air strip at South Moor Farm has started.

Thank you if you have already submitted comments to the North York Moors National Park Planning Authority, they will be sent to the planning inspector.

If you wish to add further information or comments you can do so at:-

https://acp.planninginspectorate.gov.uk

The planning inspectorate reference is 3265041

The refusal is still because Goshawk, Nightjar, Turtledoves etc might be affected.

Bob.

Re: South Moor Farm Airstrip - Not Again!!

PostPosted:Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:18 pm
by Flyin'Dutch'
Full marks for perseverance; nil points for knowing when it's time to give up.

Hope you'll get it as that would be right and proper but you won't mind me not holding my breath.

Re: South Moor Farm Airstrip - Not Again!!

PostPosted:Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:29 pm
by PeteSpencer
I logged in today and read through the submissions.

I really do wish you well but their minds are already made up.

Re: South Moor Farm Airstrip - Not Again!!

PostPosted:Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:05 am
by Sooty25
r_w_walker wrote:
The refusal is still because Goshawk, Nightjar, Turtledoves etc might be affected.



Is this the sole reason and is it supported by any law? Or is it just the decision/opinion of a single inspector?

Re: South Moor Farm Airstrip - Not Again!!

PostPosted:Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:22 am
by CloudHound
How do these birds survive other forms of disturbance in their habitats?

Re: South Moor Farm Airstrip - Not Again!!

PostPosted:Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:40 am
by johnm
CloudHound wrote:How do these birds survive other forms of disturbance in their habitats?


You are allowing rational thought processes into a planning and conservation discussion, that'll never work :D

Re: South Moor Farm Airstrip - Not Again!!

PostPosted:Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:45 am
by Miscellaneous
Considering the evidence provided previously regarding birds living on airfields it seems to me this has nothing to do with concern for the birds. They are a convenient tool to prevent flying, nothing more.

Re: South Moor Farm Airstrip - Not Again!!

PostPosted:Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:52 am
by PeteSpencer
CloudHound wrote:How do these birds survive other forms of disturbance in their habitats?


The OP has made detailed reference to the peaceful co-existence of wildlife and aeroplanes at Stoke Maries in his recent deposition to planners .

Re: South Moor Farm Airstrip - Not Again!!

PostPosted:Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:55 pm
by CloudHound
I was being somewhat rhetorical.

I edited CAP680/772 Wildlife Hazard Management at Aerodromes so think I know a bit about the subject.

It’s not machines that disturb birds it’s people. That’s why Bird Control Officers have to get out of their vehicle. The sight of a Range Rover is not a deterrent.

Some of the best habitats for birds are within military firing ranges - some noise no people.

Re: South Moor Farm Airstrip - Not Again!!

PostPosted:Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:51 pm
by oldbiggincfi
PeteSpencer wrote:I logged in today and read through the submissions.

I really do wish you well but their minds are already made up.



Everyone should go to a Council Planning Meeting once in their lifetime .

There are some unbelievably stupid people on the committee .

Re: South Moor Farm Airstrip - Not Again!!

PostPosted:Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:07 pm
by rikur_
oldbiggincfi wrote:

Everyone should go to a Council Planning Meeting once in their lifetime .

Some of them feel like they last a lifetime. Last one I attended was 5hr 30mins, albeit it felt much longer.

Re: South Moor Farm Airstrip - Not Again!!

PostPosted:Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:10 pm
by Spooky
So airstrips are bad for bird life, but the bird conversation society (or something like that) are defending Wolverhampton airport against the building plans.

Re: South Moor Farm Airstrip - Not Again!!

PostPosted:Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:26 pm
by CloudHound
bird conversation society

They don't 'arf twitter! :lol:

Re: South Moor Farm Airstrip - Not Again!!

PostPosted:Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:30 pm
by GrahamB
I remember sitting in the Calais cafe and seeing a Kestrel hover over the runway, and a Harrier (too far away to say which) chasing up and down the grass beyond it.

The presence of Welshpool Airport does nothing to deter the presence of the local Red Kites and Buzzards, nor numerous other avian visitors to the wildlife reserve less than half a mile from the 22 threshold, including most notably a Bittern a year or two back.