TLRippon wrote:Yesterday heading from Waltham to the south east with one other aircraft. He elected to transit Farnborough and was inevitably asked to orbit to accommodate an arriving jet.
we chose the Heathrow zone and we were cleared straight in at 1200’ while the 777’s continued to depart over our heads with no drama. The controller coordinated with Farnborough and Fairoaks to route us through the Fairoaks ATZ straight to OCK giving us a climb to not above 2400’ while still in then zone.
If one of the busiest airports in Europe can deal with us while firing off departures like a machine gun, why does Farnborough make such a drama out of one biz jet arrival right next door?
I absolutely share your sentiment, but surely there's a bit of a difference in terms of your proximity to the field and the approach?
When you take the Heathrow crossing you describe you're either on a roughly parallel track to the approaches and below them at some 3-4 miles lateral separation (if they're on easterlies), or going underneath the south-turning departures which will be climbing out at 2,000fpm+ rapidly putting more and more distance between you. Happy to be corrected by the ATCOs on here, but I don't believe the Heathrow Radar controller really has to coordinate you with the departures or arrivals as such - you can fly that route while normal departures and arrivals continue - there is no conflict.
When you go through Farnborough (whether 'round the corner' or straight south) you're actually crossing the 24 ILS. They obviously can't clear you across the ILS while an inbound is on it and relatively close to the point where you'll cross, and even a crossing close to either threshold can potentially conflict with a missed approach.
Perhaps they are too conservative with lining things up for light aircraft to cross ahead of inbounds - I don't know. On my most recent crossing (which was without holding, south to north across the 24 short final) it was made clear as I approached that I needed to keep the speed up otherwise I was likely to get a few orbits to let the jet go first.
Not that I'm defending the situation. From a philosophical and freedom-of-navigation perspective I believe the jets should be waiting for gaps in the light GA traffic rather than the other way around.
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