defcribed wrote:@MichaelP It's perfectly understandable, regardless of your instructor status or undoubted experience, that someone hand-starting an aircraft may not want your help.
We do indeed tend to have our own way, each slightly different but each doing it the same way each time. To stay safe we like to concentrate on the task and not vary a routine that we know works. The last thing we want is to be worrying about what a helpful stranger who thinks they know better might suddenly do.
Now many (usually those who don't do it much) will say that you should never do it alone. Fine, that's a point of view, but it does greatly limit your options. Myself, I feel far safer doing it alone than being 'assisted' by a stranger. It's not too bad if the stranger is passive and does what you tell him to, but it gets positively terrifying when they start trying to direct proceedings.
Also, sometimes when warm they're impossible to start without a decent amount of throttle on. I'll wager he knew exactly what was happening and disaster was nowhere near as close as you thought.
Please don't be offended if your offer to 'help' results in a polite "no thank you". Frankly, if I want someone to stand in front of the tailplane for an extra safety factor then I'd rather someone who knows nothing about aeroplanes and therefore won't be tempted to offer me advice while I'm swinging the prop.
I’m sorry but I totally disagree with this.
Yes I have years of experience in flying, and I have seen the unfortunate consequences of the mistakes of others swinging their own propellers, doing it their way (which is fine) but then one day missing something, and not because they were interrupted.
On Sunday the chap had just had his aeroplane delivered.
It was at the pumps with plastic chocks under the wheels, and it was on concrete.
He had been told to open the throttle a bit with a hot engine.
When the engine started the aeroplane ran forward, and I would have preferred to have been in front of the tailplane, and not the wing.
I held the aeroplane as the pilot went around and quickly grabbed the throttle.
If I was not there the outcome would have been nasty.
NO ONE should swing a live engine without someone in the cockpit. That’s a rule!
At the very least you need someone to prevent the aeroplane moving should a problem occur.
I have stood by the tailplane many times, without offering any advice to the all knowing pilot.
And many times, I have eventually done the swinging for the pilot.
I did it for Mick W a couple of weeks ago...
It’s plain stupid to do something like swing a propeller when there’s help available from ones fellow aviators.
Stuck on a lonely strip is one thing, but at a fly-in or by the pumps solicit the help that is available for everyone’s safety.