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#1782960
I located these NOTAM on the AIS website:

B1079/20
Q) EGXX/QAFXX/IV/NBO/E/000/999/5504N00500W999
B) FROM: 20/05/11 10:45C) TO: 20/08/09 12:00 EST
E) COVID-19: FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS. CARRIERS ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE A
GENERAL AIRCRAFT DECLARATION (GAD) FOR ALL FLIGHTS COMING INTO THE
UK, CONFIRMING THE HEALTH STATUS OF THE FLIGHT INCLUDING THE ACTIVE
REPORTING OF NIL RETURNS. PUBLIC HEALTH ENGLANDS HEALTH CONTROL UNIT
(HCU), BASED AT HEATHROW, WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE CENTRAL CONTACT
POINT IN ENGLAND FOR THE ENHANCED GAD PROCESS AND SUPPORT ON PUBLIC
HEALTH QUERIES. HCU CAN BE CONTACTED ON +44 (0)2087457209 OR
HEATHROW.HCU(AT)PHE.GOV.UK. 2020-05-0201/AS4

And

B1431/20
Q) EGTT/QAFXX/IV/NBO/E/000/999/5206N00157W999
B) FROM: 20/06/23 08:45C) TO: 20/09/04 23:59
E) COVID19: CREWS/PASSENGERS REQUIREMENTS.
CREWS SHOULD COMPLETE THE ENHANCED GENERAL AIRCRAFT DECLARATION
(GAD) PROCESS FOR ALL INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS INTO ENGLAND, INCLUDING
THE ACTIVE REPORTING OF NIL RETURNS. CREWS ARE REQUIRED TO BRIEF
PASSENGERS VIA THE BELOW ANNOUNCEMENT IF LANDING IN ENGLAND: THE
FOLLOWING IS A PUBLIC HEALTH MESSAGE ON BEHALF OF THE UKS PUBLIC
HEALTH AGENCIES. THE SYMPTOMS OF CORONAVIRUS ARE A NEW CONTINUOUS
COUGH, A HIGH TEMPERATURE OR A LOSS OF, OR CHANGE IN, NORMAL SENSE
OF TASTE OR SMELL. IF YOU EXPERIENCE ANY OF THESE SYMPTOMS, HOWEVER
MILD, YOU ARE ADVISED TO MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN TO THE CREW.
SIMPLE MEASURES YOU CAN TAKE TO HELP PROTECT YOURSELF AND FAMILY ARE:
1. WASH YOUR HANDS 2. AVOID TOUCHING YOUR FACE WITH YOUR HANDS
3. CATCH COUGHS AND SNEEZES IN A TISSUE AND DISPOSE OF IT
IMMEDIATELY.
BEFORE ENTERING THE UK, YOU MUST COMPLETE A CONTACT LOCATOR FORM
ONLINE. YOU MUST ALSO SELF-ISOLATE FOR THE FIRST 14 DAYS AFTER YOU
ARRIVE, UNLESS YOU ARE IN AN EXEMPT CATEGORY. TO VIEW THE EXEMPTIONS
LIST, VISIT GOV.UK. 2020-06-0168

Identifying the need to complete the health declarations.

However not pointing any fingers but some tablets Apps did not produce the NOTAM in the briefing.

Be careful out there.
#1782962
reimomo wrote:They said they'd spent some of the day in Shoreham, and not one pilot there was aware of it either.

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Which should tell the authorities that they havent got their message across to those that they expect to follow their rules...

"Hitchikers Guide" anyone...
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#1782967
matthew_w100 wrote:I am genuinely disturbed by our civil powers' drift towards the paramilitary.


'drift' 'paramilitary' ? Their powers are not new (Customs&Excise powers go back to 16thc AIUI; the oldest English [sic] Government continuously operating national uniformed permanent force, I believe), and they are unarmed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Force#Powers
#1783016
Marvin wrote:However not pointing any fingers but some tablets Apps did not produce the NOTAM in the briefing.


Hopefully you've informed the makers of any such apps? They will (or should be) glad of the feedback.

I've checked that SkyDemon includes them.
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#1783038
Tim Dawson wrote:
Marvin wrote:However not pointing any fingers but some tablets Apps did not produce the NOTAM in the briefing.


Hopefully you've informed the makers of any such apps? They will (or should be) glad of the feedback.

I've checked that SkyDemon includes them.


Suppliers informed and investigating.
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#1783050
actually the C155 website says "Authorised agents and pilots can use form C155 to: declare passengers and crew on both inward and outward flights; provide information about any accidents, illness or other conditions on board that could lead to the spread of disease"
not aware that as a private pilot I'm "authorised" but 3 inches to the right under "related content" it links to "General aviation operators and pilots notification of flights", which gets you back to the normal GAR GenDecs; so will try that one next weekend; did anyone get feedback on using those?
#1783053
A couple of aviators who probably didn't complete the right forms :)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-d ... e-53383387

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-53390966

(Usual BBC disclaimer :roll: )
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#1783056
Arrow IV wrote:...normal GAR GenDecs...

You're confusing two things - the GAR isn't a GENDEC; they are different documents with different functions.

The GENDEC is the C155 and is the health statement (which the GAR doesn't include).
#1783058
Salut James and everyone

If your trip to France can't be done without speaking the language of Shakespeare, we will always be delighted to welcome you to CALAIS LFAC, in your native language from Tuesday to Saturday.

http://notamweb.aviation-civile.gouv.fr/
LFAC

" NOTAM LFFA-C1900/20
Q) LFFF/QSFAH/IV/ B/ A/000/999/5058N00157E005
A) LFAC CALAIS MARCK
B) 2020 Jul 01 08:00 C) 2020 Sep 30 16:00
E) HORAIRES AFIS:
MAR-SAM: 0800-1600
DIM-LUN: NON ASSURE
EN DEHORS DE CES HORAIRES, OUVERTURE SUR PN 48HR PAR MAIL A :
AEROPORT(A)GRANDCALAIS.FR"

Hi JAmes and everyone

If your trip to France cannot be done without speaking the language of Shakespeare, we will always be delighted to welcome you to CALAIS LFAC, in your native language from Tuesday to Saturday.

Bus are always free to get good wine, visit museums, go to the beach or greet your neighbors who cross the Channel by boat. http://www.sitac-calais-opale-bus.fr/

the restaurant is open every day except Monday. https://www.facebook.com/Auvolauvent/

And always very expensive landing fees.. :lol: :mrgreen:
7€ for microlights,
10€ for DR 40, pa 28 AA5 .... (max 1,5Ton)
12€ plane 1.5T < mtow < 2.5 Ton
28€ plane 2.5<mtow<3.5
...
and discount of 75% for training (Touch & Go or Go around since the énd mouvement)

See you very soon
Alex :sunny:
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#1783069
Dave W wrote:
Arrow IV wrote:...normal GAR GenDecs...

You're confusing two things - the GAR isn't a GENDEC; they are different documents with different functions.

The GENDEC is the C155 and is the health statement (which the GAR doesn't include).


Not sure about my confusion ... agree that GAR and GAD are different things. It's also pretty clear that the NOTAM and C155 are meant for airline carriers which most of us are not. My question was if you send PHE a GAR instead a GAD then "does it matter?". You say on the other thread that PHE told someone it does, several others say it doesn't. That's what I'm confused about ;-)
#1783073
Arrow IV wrote:My question was if you send PHE a GAR instead a GAD then "does it matter?". You say on the other thread that PHE told someone it does, several others say it doesn't. That's what I'm confused about ;-)



PHE will have no interest at all in a GAR, because the GAR contains no health declaration.

The other threads and posts are not generally discussing the GAR. They are discussing the GAD ("GENDEC"/C155) and the online "Public Health Passenger Locator Form".
#1783080
Irv Lee wrote:

Typical BBC inconsistency ... one minute it's the Tees, the next minute it's a bit further north...


BBC news site subdivides thus:

England - Regions - North East - then either 'Tees' or 'Tyne &Wear'

(But, obviously, I should have quoted my 'usual BBC disclaimer' in full, to mollify those for whom it is always an inherently untrustworthy source :wink: )
#1783091
kanga wrote:
matthew_w100 wrote:I am genuinely disturbed by our civil powers' drift towards the paramilitary.


'drift' 'paramilitary' ? Their powers are not new (Customs&Excise powers go back to 16thc AIUI; the oldest English [sic] Government continuously operating national uniformed permanent force, I believe), and they are unarmed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Force#Powers


I didn't mean their powers, I meant their attire.
#1783106
matthew_w100 wrote:..

I didn't mean their powers, I meant their attire.


their antecedents go back to 'Riding Officers' and 'Waterguards' of the Boards of Customs and of Excise

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riding_officer

Riding Officers' armament:

"A riding officer's duties included tackling the bands of smugglers..wielding just a cutlass and pistol,.."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterguard

Waterguard, 19th c:

"..uniformed officers whose uniform was very similar to that of a Royal Navy officer. .."

.. but the staff of the antecedents of the Immigration Service (in the Aliens Act) were not uniformed, IIRC. They were, however, assisted or escorted by those with Constabulary powers when this was expected to be prudent. Happy to be corrected, as ever

</too much of a history nerd :oops: >
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