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By SafetyThird
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#1819496
Tonybishop wrote:The new Mac laptops and Mac mini, powered by Apple's own ARM processor are phenomenally fast and run x-plane. Looks like a winning combination, so need to move to a Windows PC.

Also, having tried games joysticks, I've moved to a Gladiator for joystick and rudder controls. Much more precise.

True but laptops are expensive and neither are really upgradable. A PC box can be upgraded piecemeal as the technology changes for this use.
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By SafetyThird
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#1819498
Full Metal Jackass wrote:
There is no real reason to choose between AMD or Intel, the difference is purely bang per buck and I would recommend you get a system specced the way you want it. If you buy something from (eg) Currys, you'll pay too much or have some sort of bottle neck.

To get a reasonable performance, I would recommend a computer with:

AMD Ryzen 3700x
Mainboard with B550 chipset
32GB RAM
1TB SSD
RTX 2070 Graphics card
600W PSU

You should be able to run 4K with 35 - 40FPS with these components.

I would never buy a CPU or graphics card second hand - a relatively new board / CPU might have been overclocked and damaged - what warranty will you have? Yes, you might be lucky if it's from someone like me, then you could have a second hand GTX 1080 which hasn't been clocked but such a card it's not up to the performance if you want to run ultra setting. You'll then regret not splashing out on the 2070 in the first place....

For VR, all you'd need to add would be the Oculus Quest 2 and the Oculus Link cable... add 300 quid.. done....

just my 0.02 worth....


Thanks very much, that's a good spec to work to. Interesting thoughts on the cards, I didn't realise you could actually damage them that easily, I figured either they work or they don't. Worth pondering as I spec the system out.
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By SafetyThird
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#1820378
Pretty much spec'd a setup that's £1000 without a GPU. Seems there's a worldwide shortage of them. Might have to resort to eBay after all.

Quantity
Stock ID Description Price Total
1 MY-107-PA Patriot Viper Steel 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVS432G360C8K) £149.99 £149.99
1 CA-03S-KK Kolink Castle Midi Tower Case - Black £46.99 £46.99
1 CP-3B7-AM AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core 4.4GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail £299.99 £299.99
1 AC-000-AC Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g) £6.49 £6.49
1 MB-6FC-AS Asus ROG Strix B550-F Gaming (Wi-Fi) (AMD AM4) B550 ATX Motherboard £189.95 £189.95
1 HD-56L-WD WD Blue SN550 1TB NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2B0C) £94.99 £94.99
1 CA-24S-CS Corsair RM Series RM750 750W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply (CP-9020195-UK) £104.95 £104.95
1 SW-172-MS Microsoft Windows 10 64-Bit DVD - OEM (MS-KW9-00139) £109.99 £109.99
£1003.34
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By SafetyThird
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Bought it as a complete system, it was the only way to get hold of the card. Probably paid a couple of hundred more than building it myself but I'd be waiting months to get one otherwise. You could try contacting the place I bought from and see if they have a card they'd sell you. They had everything in stock and I got it on overnight delivery. https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/lovecomputer ... 2749.l2754

They're based in Manchester, have a real bricks and mortar shop and have been around for years. They shipped everything well and included the individual item boxes and spare bits and pieces they all come with even though the system was completely built and installed. I'd recommend them. Only thing wrong was a missing power cable but I had a spare of that in my box of miscellaneous cables.
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I think that might be quite an old one, but I'm not sure. A good place to look at Flight Sim performance with different cards is:

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/features/microsoft-flight-simulator-benchmarks-performance-system-requirements

The chart "Microsoft Flight Simulator Performance FPS at 1920x1080 High" (or at least Medium) should give an idea of likely performance.

A consistent frame rate above 20 is OK IMHO (geeks would say make that 40). It depends on preference.
Some would say that a frame rate of 15 is OK, but you get to notice the flicker.
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By Rob P
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the 1050Ti might be a bit slow.


Real world experience.

I am running MSFS2020 on a Zotac GTX1060 and performance is perfectly adequate for happily exploring the world on the programme's default settings. (Using a largish monitor, not VR).

This with a Ryzen 7 1700X 8-core CPU and 16Gb of memory

Rob P
Last edited by Rob P on Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:28 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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