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By Crash one
#1755190
James Chan wrote:
Can GA help?


Ignoring the self-defeatist comments ( :clown: ), yes. Some applications include:
- Transfer of people and organs for medical use
- Delivery of small goods via drones or small aircraft where delivery services are not available
- Transfer of key workers
- Police/security surveillance to maintain law and order
- Scientific research to monitor virus particles, atmosphere, etc

As for private/personal use, if you are *really* allowed to get out the house and travel by road, and you *need* to get there faster, then one *should* be able to get there by air also.


There are no restrictions on the normal scientific and road transport based methods of any of that.
People who believe that their niche hobby can be used to save the planet and turn them into super heroes are living in cloud cuckoo land. :clown: :clown:
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By JAFO
#1755201
And the start of my annual leave - who knows how that will go? I am ever hopeful that we may have returned to normality by then but I know how optimistic that is.
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By James Chan
#1755591
and road transport based methods of any of that.


Unless perhaps one needs to hop to offshore islands?

People who believe that their niche hobby can be used to save the planet and turn them into super heroes are living in cloud cuckoo land.


That is also true - so they should get a job at an approved organisation to keep flying, if there's a hiring demand. It's more likely that (furloughed?) commercial licensed and/or instrument-rated pilots would get them first.
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By Dave W
#1755594
James Chan wrote:
and road transport based methods of any of that.


Unless perhaps one needs to hop to offshore islands?

There's going to have to be water transport (or CAT) already available in those instances for normal circumstances. It's the same logic as existing road transport for mainland delivery.
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By James Chan
#1755597
Well, we're in extraordinary circumstances anyway and people are losing their lives daily.

Indeed CAT-cargo flights will help with rapid deliveries of supplies to the NHS, and other e-commerce orders. Other CAT will struggle to maintain solvency if the huge planes they have aren't full.

Outside CAT, there are roles for non-private GA where the aircraft types are smaller.
By G-SLOT
#1755621
Well, lots of different views here but all I can say is that this experienced, current, instrument rated commercial pilot with a fast, capable (FIKI) aircraft at his disposal is happy to help, at short notice, without any expectation of remuneration or contribution to expenses, as and when needed. I suspect others feel similarly and need only be asked to step up.
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By Lefty
#1755653
I’d love to think that we could be useful, but the sad reality is that the authorities are very unlikely to ever put their trust in an amateur pilot with an aircraft of unknown status. It is all perceived as risky and undependable.

In the US, there is a far greater acceptance and use of GA, and organisations such as Angel Flight have sprung up to coordinate and provide a level of assurance. There are also many more airports, most with an instrument approach (which greatly increases the probability of a successful flight.

My own aircraft has space to carry a stretcher patient with two medics In the back, and in the US, the type is often used as an air ambulance. But the UK and Europe don’t see us as being useful.

The one area that I think we could be useful in the UK, is in looking for missing people or boats around our coastline. For example if the RNLI get a call out, then it would be easy for aircraft from nearby coastal airfield to be asked to help find the missing vessel.
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By kanga
#1755656
Lefty wrote:..

The one area that I think we could be useful in the UK, is in looking for missing people or boats around our coastline. For example if the RNLI get a call out, then it would be easy for aircraft from nearby coastal airfield to be asked to help find the missing vessel.


It's one of the things Skywatch has long done, and did for several of the more rural Constabulary areas of Scotland until their merger. In parts of England and Northern Ireland, and possibly Wales, Skywatch is on the local Coastguard list in case their own helicopters are not available, or the details of the missing person are not quite up to their callout criteria.
By Tom L
#1755657
As others have pointed out, this is a ridiculous discussion, for a whole bunch of reasons. If you want to help, call your older neighbours and relatives to check they’re ok, stay at home, and if you have the time, register with the goodsamapp.org
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By James Chan
#1755683
But the UK and Europe don’t see us as being useful


It is sad but it is also probably only GA who can primarily drive changes to perceptions and claim to “add value” for others in the community.

It’ll be of course a different challenge with many smaller countries with many different languages operating in a close space.

AngelFlight exists in the EU too but I don’t know how large or small it is.
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By avtur3
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johnm wrote:
..... My wife is shopping for the old folk (which includes me :D ) and at Waitrose they reserved early opening at 8.00 am for oldies. .......


I'd heard that Waitrose was only admitting people who lived in detached houses and were willing to pay a 20% premium for any product bought in their store.... :wink: