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I’m impressed to learn that you and TDM ever agreed on anything.

flybymike wrote:I’m impressed to learn that you and TDM ever agreed on anything.

Rest easy, FBM, it's not true. It can only be a figment of Mr. chevvron's imagination. Unlike he, I was never a Watch Manager. I managed to avoid becoming such a self-exalted , élitist, macho-posturing prima-donna.

" I was never a Watch Manager. I managed to avoid becoming such a self-exalted , élitist, macho-posturing prima-donna."

Ha ha, brilliant. Same here and not the slightest regret. The place is full of pompous clowns now.

Tempted to quote something from Not Airway but I would get banned from here.

Talkdownman wrote:

flybymike wrote:I’m impressed to learn that you and TDM ever agreed on anything.

Rest easy, FBM, it's not true. It can only be a figment of Mr. chevvron's imagination. Unlike he, I was never a Watch Manager. I managed to avoid becoming such a self-exalted , élitist, macho-posturing prima-donna.

Ah but after a 'clash' with my prima donna ex Heathrow boss (who as far as I know never gained a C of C on APS whilst working for NATS) where she tried to get me sacked, I was 'downgraded' and ended my days as an ordinary working controller so I was much happier.
I only applied for the Watch Manager post in order to avoid a compulsory posting anyway.

To get back to Farnborough airspace, or more particularly the airfield.
Is it still operating?

Yes, I think so, though I'm not in the local area at the moment. Locals are reporting that it's pretty busy. Looking at FR24 there are loads of private jets flying around.

Farnborough continues to operate but with minimum staffing required. Most Farnborough/Wessex group airfields are now closed or restricted so nearly all sectors are bandboxed. Rumours that Farnborough may have reduced operating hours soon.

New Manchester LLR Procedures

Any reason why there can’t be a Farnborough LLR with the same assumed SVFR?

Human Factor wrote:New Manchester LLR Procedures

Any reason why there can’t be a Farnborough LLR with the same assumed SVFR?

Apart from the fact D133 might get in the way on the rare occasions it's notified above 1300ft, they could use the 'corridor' I mentioned above at #1754676.

They certainly could. My question is more along the lines of why was a Manchester style low-level route including implied SVFR not implemented when the airspace was changed?

Human Factor wrote:They certainly could. My question is more along the lines of why was a Manchester style low-level route including implied SVFR not implemented when the airspace was changed?

Dunno mate; both myself and other Farnborough controllers suggested it on several occasions pre Nov 2008. and it would 'work' for either Fairoaks traffic or transits like it did during the airshow.
Simple to plot too; stay south of the OCK radial which goes through WOD and north of Bagshot Mast not above (say) 1500ft; watch out for H3 joiners/leavers and Bob was my uncle (died a few years ago).

Where would you propose for the LLR?
There’s a fair bit more room between the Manchester and Liverpool runways that there is between Fairoaks and Farnborough.

Edit. Chevvers just posted above....

Farnborough East and North shut until 13/04/2020.

Iceman

Iceman wrote:Farnborough East and North shut until 13/04/2020.

Iceman

.. presumably forgoing their fees from ?NATS for providing the service .. ?

Now deactivated.