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Thorpe - Ascot - Burnham routing question

PostPosted:Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:18 am
by CloudHound
Picking up on a comment from Lefty in the Farnboro' CAS thread.
(perhaps to route west via Basingstoke or even request a Special through the London TMA (Ascot – Burnham – Thorpe).

I'll be flying into Denham from my strip due south of Gatwick a few times this year and so this route looks tantalising.

So, over the top of LGW to Dorking then OCK following the M25 to Thorpe keeping clear of WW, left a bit to Ascot and north to BUR then join via St Giles.

Wx and traffic permitting is that "do-able"?

Re: Thorpe - Ascot - Burnham routing question

PostPosted:Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:37 am
by James Chan
I have flown over the top of Gatwick and through the Ascot-Burnham route.
Everything is doable, wx and traffic permitting.

See the guide on the London CTR Inner Area. More routes open up if you're a helicopter.

Re: Thorpe - Ascot - Burnham routing question

PostPosted:Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:32 pm
by Talkdownman
CloudHound wrote:following the M25 to Thorpe keeping clear of WW, left a bit to Ascot and north to BUR then join via St Giles.

Wx and traffic permitting is that "do-able"?

Yes. And it’s a Control Zone, not a TMA. Request from Heathrow Radar 125.625

Re: Thorpe - Ascot - Burnham routing question

PostPosted:Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:10 pm
by flybymike
Lefty always likes to call it a TMA. :wink:

Re: Thorpe - Ascot - Burnham routing question

PostPosted:Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:32 pm
by chevvron
Talkdownman wrote:
CloudHound wrote:following the M25 to Thorpe keeping clear of WW, left a bit to Ascot and north to BUR then join via St Giles.

Wx and traffic permitting is that "do-able"?

Yes. And it’s a Control Zone, not a TMA. Request from Heathrow Radar 125.625

Keeping clear of the Fairoaks ATZ/LFA of course; Fairoaks traffic may go as far east as the M25 south of Thorpe.
And you can request VFR clearance rather than SVFR if the weather is suitable.

Re: Thorpe - Ascot - Burnham routing question

PostPosted:Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:46 pm
by Talkdownman
flybymike wrote:Lefty always likes to call it a TMA. :wink:

Maybe so, but it isn’t!

Re: Thorpe - Ascot - Burnham routing question

PostPosted:Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:29 pm
by Lefty
Talkdownman wrote:
flybymike wrote:Lefty always likes to call it a TMA. :wink:

Maybe so, but it isn’t!

The brain thinks CTR - but the fingers do TMA :(

Re: Thorpe - Ascot - Burnham routing question

PostPosted:Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:35 pm
by T67M
Weather permitting, that's a very do-able VFR route. Being based at Redhill, I do both halves of it frequently. Just be careful when exiting the Gatwick zone northbound as they often route you via Buckland VRP, which is a heavy traffic area for Redhill flights, and it's easy to "infringe" the Redhill ATZ.