[RichJordan]

Has anyone else noticed that the LLR has changed on Skydemon?

It appears to now be within a CTR?

[PaulB]

Thought it always was CAS, irrespective of how SD displayed it.

[Dave W]

It was.

Not very long ago (on these forums, I think) it was pointed out that the previous presentation could be ambiguous.

I suspect that drove a change - as an improvement to clarify any potential ambiguity

[Talkdownman]

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[PaulB]

I guess a question that must have been asked here before (but I don’t recall) is why it needs to be MAN class D if it’s permanently (effectively) given over to VFR transit traffic that needs no clearance.


How long has the LLR existed? Has it ever been “reclaimed” for CAT use? if so when?

[RichJordan]

Feels less intuitive. It's now effectively invisible.

While it might not have been correct before, it's certainly not right now.

[PaulB]

Feels less intuitive. It's now effectively invisible.

While it might not have been correct before, it's certainly not right now.

You could argue that I t actually is right now.... it is CAS and is displayed as such.

[RichJordan]

That's true.

But if I wasn't aware of the existence of the LLR already, I can't see how I'd now see it from the Skydemon planning view. It might be being shown accurately, but it's not intuitive.

[Iceman]

I see that SD has now resolved the ambiguity satisfactorily. Tapping on the airspace, or putting a route through it does give information about the LLR, as shown in the following shot.



Iceman

[Dave W]

How is it represented on the current CAA chart?

[Nick]

I think you will find that if you reduce your planned flight level to below 1300 ft the shading over the corridor will disappear. That is how it has worked for me in the past. Unless Skydemon have changed it. I bet Tim will be along soon to explain.

Nick.

[Iceman]

The route shown above is at 1100 ft, I.e., within the corridor.

Iceman

[RichJordan]

I see that SD has now resolved the ambiguity satisfactorily. Tapping on the airspace, or putting a route through it does give information about the LLR, as shown in the following shot.



Iceman

But how would a Skydemon user unfamiliar with the specific airspace around Manchester know to put a route through CAS. Or just stab randomly at the various bits of airspace?

I don't know what the right answer is. But I don't think it's this.

[RichJordan]

I think you will find that if you reduce your planned flight level to below 1300 ft the shading over the corridor will disappear. That is how it has worked for me in the past. Unless Skydemon have changed it. I bet Tim will be along soon to explain.

Nick.

No. I think the change recently implemented has got rid of that.

[PaulB]

That's true.

But if I wasn't aware of the existence of the LLR already, I can't see how I'd now see it from the Skydemon planning view. It might be being shown accurately, but it's not intuitive.

That is also true....