steviem wrote:I find your phrase “I refuse to be convinced” bemusing.
There is very little if any evidence to suggest that GPS users are busting airspace in synchronised fashion or otherwise.
Errrrr, Sir, I didn’t actually say that, so please don’t twist my comments!
I was saying that something like jamming exercises will bring to light the reality of people flying with their eyes glued to their ‘devices’ and suddenly seeing something like like ‘SATELLITE SIGNAL LOST - REFER TO OWN NAVIGATION METHODS’.
That’s when the problems start, not through regular use of GPS.
I get fed up with people assuming I disagree with GPS.
For the last time....
I THINK GPS IS THE BEST THING SINCE SEE-THROUGH BLOUSES AND I USE IT A LOT. I FLY DAILY AND I USE SKYDEMON DAILY. ITS A GREAT APP AND I LOVE USING IT.
Ok, so that’s done....
My point (which for 15 years and 8 weeks since I’ve been on this forum has remained unchanged) is that it’s too relied upon, and this kind of jamming exercise has the potential to get people in hot water with the likes of people like Cub who, I’ve been told, are quite literally dying to promote infringement prosecutions as and when they can.
No need to call me Sir, we’re all friends here. Indeed it’s only been 13 years since I joined the forum so technically, you are my superior.
I felt your point was pretty clear. My apologies if I’ve misrepresented you however. So, you are a user and a fan of GPS but in your opinion, there are a significant number (of others) who also use the system principally who are too cavalier in their approach to navigation planning and are therefore likely to get lost en masse when the system is compromised Correct?
. I agree with you in that a GPS jamming exercise has the potential to get GPS navigators in trouble. In the same way a VOR or NDB getting taken out of service has the potential to get RadNav people in trouble and in the same way as a change in airspace or activation of a RAT or DA or radio frequency has the potential for the map and stopwatch community to get in trouble if they have failed to to update the myriad changes to the real world system that occur, on their paper map since it was published. Any system has a potential to fail.
However, my point, which you have failed to address, is that there is no EVIDENCE that Pilot A who navigates principally using GPS is more likely to fail to spot the NOTAMed outage of his preferred system and get into trouble as a result than Pilot B, the radio nav girl is for her preferred system or for that matter Pilot C who is the paper map exponent.
Your opinion which despite your reluctance to relinquish it, is not, to my knowledge predicated on any objective evidence base. Unless you can point me to some, there is just no evidence that supports your view that GPS navigators as a section of the pilot community are more cavalier in their approach to flying than any other section. The infringement statistics certainly don’t support that view.
Anyway enough for one night. I’m off to bed. Happy Landings.
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