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By Flyin'Dutch'
#1705271
@Paul_Sengupta

It works here but is limited in that it only receives ADS-B (1090). If you don't care about the official case, you can put a single band one together for about £50. If you want the official case and want dual band then it's about £75,


Have you ever thrown one together? Is it easy?

There are only 5 reviews here and the savings €30.

https://www.amazon.de/BL1-Stratux-FLARM ... B07QH3FYFQ

(Yes I know PAW costs the same but no FLARM rebroadcast in the rest of Europe)
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By Tim Dawson
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Stratux decodes flarm without any permission from flarm. I don’t personally see that as sustainable.
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By Paul_Sengupta
#1705280
Flyin'Dutch' wrote:Have you ever thrown one together? Is it easy?


Putting the hardware together is easy. Putting the standard build on a flash card is easy. I'm not sure about the Flarm build though, Have a look here for the Flarm version. It's a sort of running Beta.

Suggest starting with something simple and then adding to it if you are happy with the build. That kit is a little OTT (at least price wise!) for starters.
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By gaznav
#1705298
Flyin'Dutch' wrote:Which ADS-B receivers work in the UK/Europe?


Portable receivers with ADS-B receive capability (Prices inc VAT)

uAvionix
SkyEcho1 - £600 (no longer in production) batteries included. ADS-B tx too.
SkyEcho2 -£443 batteries included. ADS-B tx too.
pingUSB - £159 batteries not included. This has a GDL-90 interface but does not have a GPS. Apparently works with EasyVFR ok.

FLARM
PowerFLARM Portable - £1,914 batteries not included

Dynon
Dynon DRX - £378 batteries included.

Garmin
Garmin GDL-39 - £554 batteries not included.
Garmin GDL-50 - £708 batteries included.

iLevil
iLevil 3 SW - £778.80 batteries included (and solar charging)

Pilot Aware
Pilot Aware Rosetta - £250 (plus annual licence fee) batteries not included

Stratux
Stratux Kit - about £70 self build if batteries included
Assembled Stratux - about £220 if batteries included

So cheapest are really pingUSB and Stratux. Mid-range is SkyEcho and PilotAware. Then you can go crazy with Dynon, Garmin and iLevel. If you want FLARM tx/rx and ADS-B receive then PFLARM Portable is really nice (I’ve used it several times) but it’s bloomin’ expensive! :thumright:
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By Flyin'Dutch'
#1705306
I can see the attraction of that especially as I would quite like the FLARM option.

Alternatively I could try and cobble the Stratux together.

Decisions decisions
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By dangerous pete
#1705354
The Scout/Sentry/Ping are receive only. If you are going to the trouble of fitting an EC device, get one that transmits as well. You know it makes sense. I'm now going for an extended squit.
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By Flyin'Dutch'
#1705360
dangerous pete wrote:The Scout/Sentry/Ping are receive only. If you are going to the trouble of fitting an EC device, get one that transmits as well. You know it makes sense. I'm now going for an extended squit.


Already Mode-S with ADS-B out.
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By Geraint Pinches
#1705377
Does SkyEcho2 have built in GPS?

I ask because I currently run Skydemon on my iPad when airborne. However, my
iPad doesn’t have built in GPS so I connect to a little Garmin GPS unit via Bluetooth.

I don’t think I could connect two devices to my iPad via Bluetooth simultaneously, hence the question.
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By gaznav
#1705388
Geraint Pinches wrote:Does SkyEcho2 have built in GPS?

I ask because I currently run Skydemon on my iPad when airborne. However, my
iPad doesn’t have built in GPS so I connect to a little Garmin GPS unit via Bluetooth.

I don’t think I could connect two devices to my iPad via Bluetooth simultaneously, hence the question.


Hi, yes the SkyEcho does have a GPS (a SIL=1 type too :thumright: ). You connect it via WiFi rather than Bluetooth.
By Geraint Pinches
#1705432
Thanks gaznav. Forgive me, I’m technically clueless, but how do you then maintain the connection between the iPad and SkyEcho when you’re in the air (ie. out of WiFi signal)?
By dewidaniels
#1705464
gaznav wrote:Portable receivers with ADS-B receive capability (Prices inc VAT)

uAvionix
SkyEcho1 - £600 (no longer in production) batteries included. ADS-B tx too.
SkyEcho2 -£443 batteries included. ADS-B tx too.
pingUSB - £159 batteries not included. This has a GDL-90 interface but does not have a GPS. Apparently works with EasyVFR ok.

FLARM
PowerFLARM Portable - £1,914 batteries not included

Dynon
Dynon DRX - £378 batteries included.

Garmin
Garmin GDL-39 - £554 batteries not included.
Garmin GDL-50 - £708 batteries included.

iLevil
iLevil 3 SW - £778.80 batteries included (and solar charging)

Pilot Aware
Pilot Aware Rosetta - £250 (plus annual licence fee) batteries not included

Stratux
Stratux Kit - about £70 self build if batteries included
Assembled Stratux - about £220 if batteries included


Wow, that does make FLARM look very expensive, doesn't it? There are (slightly) cheaper FLARM devices available from FLARM and other manufacturers, but they're mostly either not portable and/or don't have ADS-B in.

LXNAV
PowerMouse - £755 not portable, no ADS-B, batteries not included
PowerMouse ADS-B - £1,345 not portable, batteries not included
FlarmBat - £1,299 no ADS-B, batteries not included
FlarmBat ADS-B - £1,844 batteries not included

LX Navigation
FLARM EAGLE - £720 not portable, no ADS-B, batteries not included

FLARM
PowerFLARM Core Pure - £972 not portable, no ADS-B, batteries not included
PowerFLARM Core - £1,335 not portable, batteries not included
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By Paul_Sengupta
#1705484
Geraint Pinches wrote:Thanks gaznav. Forgive me, I’m technically clueless, but how do you then maintain the connection between the iPad and SkyEcho when you’re in the air (ie. out of WiFi signal)?


The device, be it a Sky Echo or a PilotAware, generates its own Wifi hotspot. You connect your tablet to this hotspot.
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