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Dangerous Flying Incident under Police Investigation in Jersey...

PostPosted:Mon May 20, 2019 10:05 pm
by derekf
It's all happening in Jersey :roll:

First dodgy charter investigations and now this...

https://www.bailiwickexpress.com/jsy/news/dangerous-flying-incident-under-police-investigation/

Re: Dangerous Flying Incident under Police Investigation in Jersey...

PostPosted:Mon May 20, 2019 11:54 pm
by AlanM
The new DCA means business.

Re: Dangerous Flying Incident under Police Investigation in Jersey...

PostPosted:Tue May 21, 2019 1:22 am
by skydriller
So the first couple of rules broken are a catch-all...but these ones are IFR approach minima rules, no?

-Failing to comply with official directions
-Conducting an approach and landing when the visibility or relevant runway visual range is less than that specified for a Category 1 operation (a precision approach and landing with a decision height not lower than 200 feet and with either a visibility not less than 800 metres or a runway visual range not less than 550 metres).
-Descending from a height of 1,000 feet or more above the aerodrome to a height less than 1,000 feet above the aerodrome if the reported visibility or relevant runway visual range at the aerodrome is at the time less than the specified minimum for landing.

Re: Dangerous Flying Incident under Police Investigation in Jersey...

PostPosted:Tue May 21, 2019 2:38 am
by Flyin'Dutch'
Reads like someone breaking an approach ban.

Re: Dangerous Flying Incident under Police Investigation in Jersey...

PostPosted:Tue May 21, 2019 6:56 am
by johnm
Someone should have remembered the word "Mayday" :twisted:

Re: Dangerous Flying Incident under Police Investigation in Jersey...

PostPosted:Tue May 21, 2019 7:31 am
by Martinbguk
It wasn't unheard of in Alderney for the Aurigny pilots to approach the island which was fog bound at sea level, then pull up at the last minute and land.
Maybe a local thought they knew better or were really struggling to get in anywhere.

Re: Dangerous Flying Incident under Police Investigation in Jersey...

PostPosted:Tue May 21, 2019 7:34 am
by Lockhaven
Flyin'Dutch' wrote:Reads like someone breaking an approach ban.


The introduction of not flying below the 1000 feet portion of the approach ban for private aircraft was a direct result of a Citation crashing at Jersey many years ago while trying to land in weather below the minimums for a CAT 1 approach.

https://aviation-safety.net/database/re ... 19801001-0

Re: Dangerous Flying Incident under Police Investigation in Jersey...

PostPosted:Tue May 21, 2019 7:44 am
by johnm
Martinbguk wrote:It wasn't unheard of in Alderney for the Aurigny pilots to approach the island which was fog bound at sea level, then pull up at the last minute and land.
Maybe a local thought they knew better or were really struggling to get in anywhere.


A fomer chief pilot (now sadly deceased) had flown Shackletons and Nimrods and related the story of trying to find somewhere to land as the UK slowly fogged in. Having started at Lossiemouth (I think) they ended up at St Mawgan (Newquay) critically low on fuel and flew the ILS to touch down, only seeing edge lights after they'd landed whereupon they left the aircraft on the runway until it could be towed to a stand.

Re: Dangerous Flying Incident under Police Investigation in Jersey...

PostPosted:Tue May 21, 2019 9:04 am
by Maxthelion
Sounds like The Shepherd.

Re: Dangerous Flying Incident under Police Investigation in Jersey...

PostPosted:Tue May 21, 2019 9:53 am
by kanga
Maxthelion wrote:Sounds like The Shepherd.


.. or the C124 at Frankfurt in 0/0 in 1965, posted here not long ago IIRC

Re: Dangerous Flying Incident under Police Investigation in Jersey...

PostPosted:Tue May 21, 2019 12:53 pm
by derekf
Lockhaven wrote:
Flyin'Dutch' wrote:Reads like someone breaking an approach ban.


The introduction of not flying below the 1000 feet portion of the approach ban for private aircraft was a direct result of a Citation crashing at Jersey many years ago while trying to land in weather below the minimums for a CAT 1 approach.

https://aviation-safety.net/database/re ... 19801001-0


My Dad was in the Airport Fire Service at the time and attended this one - not a great experience...